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Huntard
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Message 447 of 480 (568265)
07-05-2010 3:10 AM 		Reply to: Message 445 by ICdesign
07-05-2010 3:03 AM

Re: burden of proof
ICDESIGN writes:
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I'm looking for broad strokes and general terms of how a system got from point A to a functioning system. Moreover, I would like to know how the organizm survived with a non-functioning system along the way.
Who says it wasn't functioning along the way?
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The question why is begged with every single system. Never mind how for now. I want to know why?
Because it conveyed an advantage when it came to surviving and reproducing.
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Message 451 of 480 (568270)
07-05-2010 3:28 AM 		Reply to: Message 448 by ICdesign
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Re: burden of proof
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OK then. How would the Circulatory system function if all the pathways were not complete, for one small example?
And who says it wasn't functioning when the pathways weren't as they are now? Remember, "different" does not mean "non-functoining".
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07-05-2010 4:18 AM 		Reply to: Message 449 by crashfrog
07-05-2010 3:26 AM

Re: burden of proof
I wonder how long until "They're still plants/They're still bacteria/They're still flies". comes up.
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Message 456 of 480 (568288)
07-05-2010 7:03 AM 		Reply to: Message 453 by Big_Al35
07-05-2010 6:44 AM

Re: Beyond reasonable doubt.
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Are you suggesting that no one on the evolutionary side of this debate is willing to play devils advocate for even a moment?
Why would we need to do that?
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Your response also smacks of "let the creationists come up with their ideas and we can knock them down".
If the creationists would support their ideas with evidence, we wouldn;t be able to knock them down.
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Message 458 of 480 (568292)
07-05-2010 7:25 AM 		Reply to: Message 457 by Big_Al35
07-05-2010 7:13 AM

Re: Beyond reasonable doubt.
Big_Al35 writes:
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Gravity does not cause the moon to orbit the Earth! It's the bending of the space time fabric caused by the Earth that keeps the moon in orbit.
And scientists (and others too I'sd say) refer to this "bending of the space time fabric caused by the Earth" as gravity.
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07-05-2010 8:03 AM 		Reply to: Message 460 by Percy
07-05-2010 7:55 AM

Re: Beyond reasonable doubt.
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It's not. Creationists in just this thread alone are you, traderdrew and ICDESIGN.
And Slevesque. You're getting less astue Percy! First the wrong forum, and now skipping one of your own admins! Tsk tsk.
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Message 472 of 480 (568376)
07-05-2010 12:10 PM 		Reply to: Message 465 by ICdesign
07-05-2010 11:22 AM

Re: burden of proof
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This is one of your proofs Crash? I'm not sure if I should laugh or puke. A fly is a fly. It always has been and thats all it ever will be.
My prophetic powers allowed me to predict in Message 452:
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Huntard writes:
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I wonder how long until "They're still plants/They're still bacteria/They're still flies". comes up.
Thank you for proving my supernatural abilities.
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ICDESIGN writes:
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you haven't given me anything to respond to but a bunch of evo-babble in this entire post.
Translation: "I have absolutely no idea what any of this means, and since I'd rather be ignorant than even have to admit to the slightest possibility that I am wrong, I will label this evo-babble and pretend no evidence has been cited."
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If you were even a fraction as smart as you think you are you would understand that if Macro-evolution had been taking place all this time we would be surrounded by millions and millions of transitional forms.
Well since we are, I guess he is pretty smart.
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Is that what we see in the REAL world?
Yes.
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No it isn't. We see every species staying within its own kind just like the bible has clearly stated all along.
You (creationists) can't even define kind. This statement is therefore meaningless.
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I mean go back and read the foolish examples you just gave me.
They're actually not foolish. the fact you don't understand the slightest thing about this does not mean the examples given are either foolish, or not an example of speciation.
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You've got to be kidding.
Nope.
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Your waisting my time Crash & burn.
Since apparently you'd rather remain ignorant of the facts than actually learn something, it seems you are also wasting ours.
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07-05-2010 12:12 PM 		Reply to: Message 471 by ICdesign
07-05-2010 12:04 PM

Re: Is ignorance bliss?
ICDESIGN writes:
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Duh...OK thank you.
Since you are now admitting the fact that we do see millions of transitional species around us, I guess you will also admit that Crash is, in fact, pretty smart.
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