sac51495 writes:Consider this (and please do consider it): is a clay vessel defined by its potter, that is, is the vessel's shape and form determined by the potter? If so, can the potter define the vessel in such a way that the vessel (which the potter defined) can redefine the potter himself?
The question is not relevant to anything. A clay pot is inert. It does not define anything. It does not need to define anything. It has no purpose. We have a purpose for it, but the clay pot itself does not have a purpose of its own.
sac51495 writes:Are you not a creation of God: shaped, formed, and defined by His power, and His will?
That is unknown and unknowable.
sac51495 writes:Can we then even hope to attempt to redefine God?
If we want a definition of God, then we must provide it ourselves, for there is nowhere else that a definition can come from. Moreover, all of the evidence shows that different people have different definitions of God, which can only be explained if they are responsible for their own definitions.
sac51495 writes:Will we then think that our human reasoning (which is a
creation of God,
NOT a creator of God) is powerful enough to define the very God who created us?
I do not accept your assertions. The evidence is that human reasoning is something we learn, an acquired ability and not something we are given or born with.
sac51495 writes:How does this relate to the topic? If God is nothing more than a creation of man, God cannot be the Creator of man.
To say that we define God is not to say that we create God. Whether or not we create God is a different question from whether or not we define God.
sac51495 writes:But do you believe that God created us? If so, you must also believe that God defines man,
not vice versa.
The first of those is unknowable. The second does not follow from the first.
sac51495 writes:If God created man, then He gets to define man, and man cannot define God, that is, God's nature is not decided by our subjective experiences.
If God exists, whether or not he created man, then he gets to define what he means by "man". We get to define what we mean by "man" and what we mean by "God". That is the significance of meaning being subjective.
Edited by nwr, : typo