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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2521 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
Unless you are a resident of Tennessee, why be a opponent or a proponent of this legislation? It doesn't effect other people in other states,wtf? I'm an American. Any law in any state which attempts to suppress other Americans is something I care about. I'm worried that you don't feel the same.
I agree with all of that. So what is the problem? The law would make it illegal. That's the problem.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2521 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
My point is that if one sex pref is to be taught, then all should, if one isn't than none should. The other point is what you brought up that just general points be brought up in grade school whereas, I feel that all sexual prefs and the problems with each should be taught in Jr High. But you must agree that there is A LOT more information to go over when discussing sexual reproduction than there is in discussing homosexual sex. It's not so much a matter of "teaching a preference" as it is "this is where babies come from". Obviously kids (even gay kids) need to know this information. My objection is that asking teachers to pretend as though several of the kids in their classroom aren't gay isn't going to do those kids or the straight kids any favors.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2521 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
character assassination is all the left has when confronted by evidence in a logical fashion, you should know this by now Interesting hypothesis. Now all you need to do is start confronting us with evidence to test it. We've been WAITING and WAITING.
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4257 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
I'm an American. Any law in any state which attempts to suppress other Americans is something I care about. I'm worried that you don't feel the same. Except that by telling other Americans in other states what they can and cannot do, and what Legislation they can and cannot create, you are doing exactly that in which you claim to be against.
The law would make it illegal. That's the problem. No it wouldn’t.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2521 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
Except that by telling other Americans in other states what they can and cannot do, and what Legislation they can and cannot create, you are doing exactly that in which you claim to be against. I know you didn't cover American history while you weren't studying Greek History, so I'll try and walk you through this. The GOVERNMENT is not the PEOPLE. You can not oppress the GOVERNMENT by telling it that it can not enact or enforce laws which oppress the PEOPLE. I know you're a big fan of big government, but that's not how this country works. If you want a theocracy or a dictatorship, I can provide you with any number of countries where you can find it. Here, though, the Constitution rules, and we enact no laws specifically designed to oppress a group of people just because "Jesus hates Fags", no matter how desperately you want that to be allowed.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2521 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
No it wouldn’t. Wow, what a well reasoned argument. The law SPECIFICALLY prohibits the mention of homosexuality. In what way WOULDN'T it make covering homosexuality in sex-ed illegal? Are you even paying attention? Seriously, you've been bitching and moaning for days about how we aren't being "fair" with you, and here you are demonstrating that you don't even know what the discussion is about.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
My point is that sex ed should be comprehensive covering Sexual reproduction, contraception, sexual prefs, AIDS & STDS, sexual assaults and the good & bad points of premarital sex.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2521 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
My point is that sex ed should be comprehensive covering Sexual reproduction, contraception, sexual prefs, AIDS & STDS, sexual assaults and the good & bad points of premarital sex.
I agree, however, there are basically three times in which sex ed is handled in school. What you are talking about is most appropriate for the Jr High/High School level of sex ed. I think think this sort of material needs to get covered in the separate the 5th grade boys and the girls and have them watch the old 8mm "My body is changing" film.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
Considering that I have never seen the old 8mm "My body is changing" film, I cannot say whether it is good or not. When I was in the 5th grade, 1958-1959, there was no sex ed at all, nor in Jr High.
I started puberty in 1958, not knowing what was going on. The first inference of any sexual study came in 1961, when my parents gave me the book "What Every Young Man Should Know," which did nothing in that I had essentially taught it to myself in books from the Public Library between 1958 & 1961. There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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subbie Member (Idle past 1284 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
AE writes: Except that by telling other Americans in other states what they can and cannot do, and what Legislation they can and cannot create, you are doing exactly that in which you claim to be against. Pop quiz, hot shot: what's the difference between a democracy and a constitutional republic? And, for extra credit, which one is the United States? Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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character assassination is all the left has when confronted by evidence in a logical fashion, you should know this by now That is mere conjecture. For all you know, if "confronted with evidence in a logical fashion" we'd turn green and explode. Who can say?
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4257 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
that was good I laughed out loud.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Rachel Maddow has a new book out (which will be mentioned in the following).
The main NPR page:Rachel Maddow: The Fresh Air Interview : NPR The first 2 paragraphs:
quote: The interview transcript:Rachel Maddow: The Fresh Air Interview : NPR Link to interview mp3 download (20.4MB):http://pd.npr.org/...r-mp3/npr/fa/2012/03/20120327_fa_01.mp3 The interview links are also available via the main NPR page link. There are also some interview highlights at the bottom of that page. In all, something for you Rachel Maddow fans to read/listen to. I caught the tail end of the interview when it was broadcast. MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Perdition Member (Idle past 3267 days) Posts: 1593 From: Wisconsin Joined: |
She was on The Daily Show last night to support the book as well. Jon seemed to think it was a great read, saying it didn't have any apparent poltical bias, it argues that both sides of the aisle have contributed to the problem, then gives a few solutions at the end.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
The unedited version of the interview (with more discussion of the book content) is supposed to be available, but I can't track it down. Maybe someone else can find it.
Moose
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