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IamJoseph
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Message 71 of 286 (631237)
08-31-2011 3:45 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by GDR
08-29-2011 3:50 PM


Re: Saved or Not?
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I actually said their mission was to take God's love to the world and it comes from Genesis 12.
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3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."
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The verse refers to those who curse you unwarrentedly; in ancient times a curse signified genocide ['Come, curse me Israel' - Canaanite king]. It was also prophesized that the burden of monotheism would cause bondage and other issues with divine king nations, which the world was wholly sunk in. Of all groups, the Jews hold the least history of killing others or occupying another peoples' lands the past 4000 years; the most blame of mass murder and land robbery falls on European Christianity, seconded by Islam.
Those who did the greatest devilish deeds call their victims born of the devil; those who call others born of apes have displayed the greatest apishness in geo-history. Before talking about other groups, list a chronology of yourself.
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Message 72 of 286 (631238)
08-31-2011 3:52 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by iano
08-30-2011 7:09 PM


Re: Everyone has their own god.
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"Sovereignty is the quality of having supreme, independent authority over a geographical area".
I don't think so. Land represents a place to park on and sleep in peace; its akin to breathing and eating. It is a common denominator with all life forms. One can say the Jews got the bad end of the stick where land is concerned - the smallest, barren swampland, with a command not to steal a cubut of another peoples' land - the reason the Jews refused massive chunks of land in Africa and Australia. Yet it has caused unending obsessions by those who have more than they can count, to the extent they have only succeeded in making that barren swampland the most precious real estate in the universe. Funny that.
"IT IS A GOODLY LAND"
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IamJoseph
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Message 73 of 286 (631239)
08-31-2011 3:55 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by jar
08-30-2011 10:31 AM


Re: Saved or Not?
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Yet the Bible says differently. It says we already have the knowledge just as God does and that we also need to dope slap God when God is about to act immorally.
First, we have to check who holds the sword and rakes and who drips with blood: Gd or those deflecting their crimes elsewhere.
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IamJoseph
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Message 75 of 286 (631253)
08-31-2011 6:28 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by iano
08-31-2011 6:07 AM


Re: Everyone has their own god.
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(I'd agree there is something remarkable about the attitude of so many to such a tiny parcel of land)
More remarkable is how the world accepts this notorious situation with silence.
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IamJoseph
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Message 90 of 286 (631356)
08-31-2011 6:53 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by Dr Adequate
08-31-2011 6:25 PM


Re: Everyone has their own god.
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Re: Everyone has their own god.
So, let's see if I've got this right. If I attempt to commit some abominable crime, and I succeed, then I was doing God's will?
That is why not all belief systems are equal. One must demand to see their resumes.

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Message 91 of 286 (631358)
08-31-2011 6:57 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by hooah212002
08-31-2011 3:05 PM


Re: Everyone has their own god.
I say, more innocent folk have been murdered in the name of JC and Mo than any other. One has to see who's hands were stained with blood. Beware of those who shout love and peace too loud - they are the ones holding the knives.
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Message 110 of 286 (631439)
09-01-2011 2:46 AM
Reply to: Message 104 by jar
08-31-2011 8:18 PM


Re: Everyone has their own god.
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The God you market is evil and without any redeeming qualities.
If it does turn out to be real, the only honorable course would be to oppose it.
You mean a deity called NATURE - who had a white beard and hid in the clouds?
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Message 111 of 286 (631440)
09-01-2011 2:54 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by Dr Adequate
08-31-2011 7:59 PM


Re: Everyone has their own god.
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The problem, iano, is that since committing genocide is commonly thought to be worse than breaking a promise, it is hard to feel certain that someone who did the former would cavil at the latter.
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If person X commits murder, capital punishment is prescribed.
If nation X commits mass murder, genocide can result.
Critical mass applies. The best way to look at it is making it relevant to its time period. Most ancient nations ceased to subsist because genocide was rampant and in some cases obligatory due to supersticious traidtions. Cursing a nation via a prophet is making a vow of genocide and that it is justified. The nation of Israel is among the few which survived such agendas numerousloy, from Canaan to Europe, and now facing the same again. Its normal history.
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Message 112 of 286 (631444)
09-01-2011 3:17 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by Panda
08-31-2011 8:38 PM


Re: Everyone has their own god.
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That would be an odd position for someone to take - that God should make promises and not keep them!
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Gd is Truth. All may approach in truth.
'WHAT IS TRUTH?' - therein is the rub! Faced with absolute truth, which s transcendent of the subjective and objective, we would disintergrate faster than an A bomb can impact. Yesterday's truth is today's lie; this is not absolute truth. None can withstand absolute truth. Yet if it be true that God made a promise - even God cannot change it; this is based on the premise God is Truth; God can alter a curse [negative promise], by the factor of mercy and forgiveness, also Godly attributes; but not so with a positive promise.
Thus the promise of a small patch of land flowing with milk and honey [wow! what a phrase to dish out to salves in bondage!] cannot be negated; even the milk and honey part cannot - thus all who invaded and occupied this land made it a swamp and could not manage it, and were spat out, and they lost all concern for their own lands, which became akin to swamps. Truth.
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