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Author Topic:   What's The Best Solution For Humanity?
IamJoseph
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Message 186 of 301 (635585)
09-29-2011 9:57 PM
Reply to: Message 185 by Butterflytyrant
09-29-2011 8:22 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
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You are asking that I must 'PROVE' how man can land on the moon before it happened.
No I am not. I said your 'solution' is unproven. As opposed to sustainable development. Sustainable practices are proven to work.
The only thing proven is what we see throughout history: population increase, sustaining asset and land depletion. Your sustainence factor is a contradiction, relying upon novel imaginative insanity with no exit clause or plan B.
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My response is there is nothing stopping us from formulating a plan how a dome city can be established on the Lunar soil, and further this is incumbent for humanity.
There are things stopping us.
There are things challenging us togo forth and have dominion of all the worlds - or perish. Yet humans climb mountain tops which have never been conquered before. I honor the Hebrew bible because it remains the most honorable, truthful and wisest document humanity possesses - none have ever successfully challenged it and proven right - this despite being the most disdained writings of all. You prove this in every post.

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IamJoseph
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Message 189 of 301 (635600)
09-30-2011 12:19 AM
Reply to: Message 188 by Butterflytyrant
09-29-2011 11:15 PM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
sustenance is a word.

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IamJoseph
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Message 190 of 301 (635603)
09-30-2011 12:34 AM
Reply to: Message 188 by Butterflytyrant
09-29-2011 11:15 PM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
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Population increase is not universal.
Error # 2 of the same post. The population increase is global from the overiding historical premise.
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except for these bits...
EWrror # 3. Genesis says the universe and the earth are billions of years old [the text]. This is the first document which said so.
Error # 4. Your textual comprehension is equally eronous in subscribing 24 hour creation days. These are obvious Christian lift offs, who, unintentionally and sincerely, have made embarrassing interpretations of a text they at no time followed or understood. Have you not wondered why the Hebrew calendar, the most accurate one we have, begins 'AFTER' the creational days!?
The only thing the Jews have not yet been accused of is ignorance. Mess with the Hebrew bible at your own risk - none have ever succeeded here.

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IamJoseph
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Message 192 of 301 (635617)
09-30-2011 6:46 AM
Reply to: Message 191 by frako
09-30-2011 6:34 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
AKA Check Mate. Its usually how it ends up when all defenses are exhausted. Of note you had no response to the fact Genesis is the first document which says the universe and the earth is billions of years old. Even before the term BILLIONS was coined. Make sure your other intellectual pursuits are not full of such runaway omissions.

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IamJoseph
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Message 194 of 301 (635619)
09-30-2011 7:01 AM
Reply to: Message 193 by frako
09-30-2011 6:56 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
There you go again, confirming yourself when all defense is exhausted.

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IamJoseph
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Message 196 of 301 (635622)
09-30-2011 7:30 AM
Reply to: Message 195 by frako
09-30-2011 7:15 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
Everything in the universe is expanding and compoundedly [faster with time]. While it is uncertain how the next generation will evolve, due to recent conflicts, natural disasters and economic declines - the big picture of history says increase is inevitable; decrease is death - aka sustainable development.
If humanity cannot facilitate and accomodate growth then it has no business being at the helm. Negating growth is not a strategy - it is the lack of one. To make your day even worse - Genesis triumphs here.

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IamJoseph
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Message 198 of 301 (635628)
09-30-2011 8:22 AM
Reply to: Message 197 by frako
09-30-2011 7:42 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
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there is no reason why a decrease in population means death.
That's what I say. Sustainable development interfears with populations, treating it as death. Its life, actually, and can only be sustained by making accomodation for them. If there is a period of no growth, it is the best time to create living bases for the assured increase the following period. We don't kill off students when a class gets full - we build new schools. Same equation applies.

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IamJoseph
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Message 200 of 301 (635637)
09-30-2011 9:25 AM
Reply to: Message 199 by frako
09-30-2011 9:03 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
quote:
U sure about that
just one message ago you wrote
the big picture of history says increase is inevitable; decrease is death - aka sustainable development.
so is decrease in a population death or no??
Natural fluctuations are not the same as killing off segments of the population.
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correct so we need a period of no growth better yet a period of decreese so we can create spaceship techology capable of colonising other planets.
We don't need it, but we use it if it occurs.
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What do we do when there is no place to build a new school?? We are at a minimum of 300 years away from leaving this rock and colonising a new world new land so what do we do??
We decide to fix the problem of the future now. We do not kill off the students. When we are short of land it means we are already late and on the wrong path. When all the excuses are exhausted, we are left staring eye to eye at Genesis.

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IamJoseph
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Message 201 of 301 (635638)
09-30-2011 9:26 AM
Reply to: Message 199 by frako
09-30-2011 9:03 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
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Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more
One of some 2 million who perished under depraved Rome. The Jews won.

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IamJoseph
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Message 203 of 301 (635640)
09-30-2011 9:39 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by frako
09-30-2011 9:34 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
It won't work that way. The greater the population, the worse the pollution - the better the chances of successfully prevailing of this primal issue for humanity. The preamble must be extending forth, not emulating China. It is about humanity's greatest question, which must include the right to live and reproduce life abundently and to use this power effectively.

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IamJoseph
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Message 205 of 301 (635644)
09-30-2011 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by frako
09-30-2011 9:48 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
The correct way is if the class room is brim full then another classroom must be secured, preferably way before that stage. This factor is the topside preamble; looking after the full class is obligatory and cannot be used as a defense of the preamble factor being set aside.

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IamJoseph
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Message 207 of 301 (635650)
09-30-2011 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 206 by frako
09-30-2011 9:56 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
The two scenarious are not mutually exclusive of each other nor in competition. Its a deflection of addressing the fundamental issue. The advocation to go forth and acquire new habitats does not also mean the current people must not be considered. The advocation is first made to assist humanity, not disregard it; its questioning is the depravity. Genesis has well anticipated our future and made the correct and only path for survival with no alternatives on the table.

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IamJoseph
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Message 209 of 301 (635653)
09-30-2011 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 208 by frako
09-30-2011 10:16 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
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Or is something wrong with having to many kids??
Irrelevent. It is not a 'subject to' issue.

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IamJoseph
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Message 211 of 301 (635657)
09-30-2011 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 210 by frako
09-30-2011 10:24 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
Its not wrong to have kids. It is wrong to enslave more than one wife. Genesis was yet never wrong. There is a good reason Europe dropped the dead donkey of Helenism and accepted the Hebrew bible - ut stood her in good stead thus far and is her greatest single action.

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IamJoseph
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Message 213 of 301 (635709)
09-30-2011 8:43 PM


ITS CALLED FUTURE SHOCK.
3-D Printing is already here. In the very near future, less than 10 years away, we will be able to order chairs, shoes, beds, processed foods, medicine, offspring and a host of designed objects digitally in a file, which can be downloaded in a 3-D laser shop. Transportation and the applicable tme factor as we now know it will become obsolete. These new knowledge bytes, IMHO, are not random or accidental, but pointers where humanity is and must point to or is pointed to. Holland and Israel are at the forefront of this new technology, combining art and industry as a new science.
New warfare is also around the corner. An attack on another country will no more be via manned jets but via a screen by satelite. Targets will be digitally mapped out and click erased. But this will eventually be used for beneficial means by mapping segments of solar system space and terrains adjusted for habitation. MAD [mutually assured destruction] will eventually negate wars, making globally agreed laws and humanity oriented goals incumbent.
If we look back just half a century, no one imagined we could transport a color image or a music work within seconds across the planet uncorrupted. Today it is the only way to travel.
Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

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