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Author Topic:   Your EvC Debate Dream Team - Fantasy Debating
Buzsaw
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Message 189 of 218 (635758)
10-01-2011 8:10 AM
Reply to: Message 186 by Chuck77
10-01-2011 1:36 AM


Re: The True Creationist Role
Chuck77 writes:
Actually, the more I debate here, the more I get to know other posters, the more I see I don't belong here.
All I can do is be honest with myself and what I believe.
As far as debating goes here, I don't plan on ever being picked to be on someones Else's "dream team". Some here are in a league of there own.
Me, I'm in the bottom group just hanging on hoping no one finds out im secretly lost and barely getting by. It sucks being down here but then again, no one expects to much from you, until you make statements others disagree with. Which is what debating is all about.
There are a lot of members here worthy of being on a "dream team".
Hi Chuck. This is not an EvC site perse. It is an E site. Don't ever expect to be belonging here.
Effective (I say effective) creationists debating true creationism have never felt "belonged" here. Effective creationists debating true ID creationism should never come here expecting to be anywhere but in the bottom group.
Nevertheless, for the most part, our secularist friends need and want us here. Whether not our counterparts realize or appreciate us, they need effective creationists here.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 193 of 218 (635789)
10-01-2011 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by crashfrog
10-01-2011 1:07 PM


Re: The True Creationist Role
crashfrog writes:
and then a creationist gets made a moderator - and that's the last we ever hear of them.
It was difficult and tacky for the minority representation on behalf of the creationist constituency to moderate the overwhelming majority membership. For this reason, most of my activity as moderator was behind the scenes in PAF.
I was back there on behalf of all. I was the only moderator in PAF who advocated on behalf of NWR, for example, who never openly defied Admin in a defiant manner before his ouster.
I was there also advocating on behalf of Faith and some other creationists from time to time. There were times when I would monitor problematic creationists by request of Admin.
When I accepted the role of moderator I accepted with the understanding that my time was limited due to business and other activities.
As for a creationist dream team, LoL. Creationism PoVs range all the way from Biblical literalists to evolutionists; hardly what would be needful for a dream team.
I sometimes refer to myself as a Biblical literalistic creationist.
For the above reason, perhaps this is why current creationist minded moderators don't appear to be advocating in or out of PAF on behalf of Biblical literalists.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 196 of 218 (635807)
10-01-2011 8:18 PM
Reply to: Message 194 by crashfrog
10-01-2011 5:51 PM


Re: The True Creationist Role
crashfrog writes:
The fact that evolutionists tend to converge on the same theory of evolution is an enormous mark in its favor, and it's the reason that the evolutionist side here has such solidarity. It's not that it's all a conspiracy to disenfranchise people like you. It's that when people genuinely seek out the truth about the history and diversity of life on Earth, they very naturally home in on the science of evolution.
Not at all, friend Froggy. All that keeps evolutionist sheeple from thinking for themselves is the fact that the secularistic evolution myth of chaos into order is programmed into their young minds full of mush all the way from pre-school through doctorate degree.
Creationists think for themselves. We apply common sense and logic in arriving at our interpretations of observable evidence.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 197 of 218 (635808)
10-01-2011 8:28 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by Minnemooseus
10-01-2011 8:03 PM


Re: A creationist vs. creationist "Great Debate"?
Minnemooseus writes:
What is true creationism? - Buzsaw vs ICANT
I would be game for for such a debate with my good brother ICANT.
No doubt we could engage in such a debate in a friendly manner, airing our differences of what we consider to be the true Biblical applications of creationism.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 210 of 218 (636350)
10-05-2011 11:04 PM
Reply to: Message 209 by New Cat's Eye
10-05-2011 10:05 AM


Re: The True Creationist Role
Catholic Scientist writes:
I wet through Catholic school and we never learned "chaos into order" or really anything about evolution, honestly. When I went to college I took a 100 level biology course on human evolution. The professor even prefaced the course with an explanation that he didn't expect anyone to believe these scientific explanations as the truth, but that he did expect us to be able to explain what the scientific explanation was (and that's what we'd be tested on regardless of whether or not we believed any of it). I was a creationist beforehand and still a creationist afterwards, but I did accept the scientific explanation for how humans evolved because of all the evidence presented throughout the course.
Catholic school may be different than public school. but public school science has assumed evolution for a long time.
Even back in the early 1940s when I was in grade school I remember the 5th grade teacher telling us about grunting cavemen.
Were it not for church and the Bible, I would have likely become an evolutionist just from being taught that in school.
Btw, I see the term creationist as incongruent to evolutionist. Creationism implies a creator, rather than disorganized soup to life to organized complexity absent of a creator. No?
What creationist dream team would want the likes of you debating evolutionists, CS? You'd need to be a very efficient devil's advocate.
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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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