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frako Member (Idle past 335 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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So, to spell it out, in the UK: Employers will give employees weeks off from work. Employees are allowed to spend their all of their time off (24/7) at protest rallies. Employees are allowed to use their earnings to support themselves while at protest rallies. From what iv seen on shows that like overhauling, or anything simmilar, the americans reading this are going Wtf weeks off from work u call that getting fired or something Wtf is time off when do you sleep? Wtf u can support yourself from one job for weeks doing nothing u evil socialistic communist capitalism is the way to go live the American dream. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
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Panda Member (Idle past 3742 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
frako writes: Buzsaw has 'cheered' your reply - have I misunderstood something? Wtf weeks off from work u call that getting fired or something Aren't Americans entitled to annual leave? In the UK we are legally entitled to 28 days off from work each year. Do Americans not get holidays? If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Actually, there is no legal requirement for any time off in the US with the exception of some medical based ones such as maternity leave.
There are Federal Holidays, eight days a year IIRC, but no requirement that someone gets off work. Vacation time is based on a company by company system and only available where the company either offers it as an employee benefit or it is required through a union contract. Edited by jar, : Fix subtitle appalin spallinAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
I tried to read your link but I got a nose bleed.
But what happens instead is that if I suggest in the mildest tones that maybe we could try to fight against disease the same way we fought against Saddam Hussein and his imaginary WMDs, then the conservative will denounce me as an un-American Marxist. But my solution to disease is exactly the same as his solution to the imaginary WMDs --- I say, let the government do it. The only difference is that I want to tackle a real problem that actually kills Americans rather than an imaginary problem that someone made up. I've nothing to add but, this is a really good post. Edited by Larni, : No reason given.The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong. Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3742 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
jar writes: But is it normal for Americans to be allowed several weeks annual leave by their employers? Actually, there is no legal requirement for any time off in the US Edited by Panda, : No reason given.If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yes and no.
It was common but is being eroded rapidly. Today the norm is multiple tiered vacations where new employees get none and they can earn vacation based on how long they stay with that company. Many companies also have a "use it or lose it" policy yet can often find reasons why someone cannot take vacation at the time they want it. This means that often in a family with multiple working members, vacations are not coordinated.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
So holiday is something you have to negotiate with your employer, rather than an obligation of said employer?
That's harsh: I get 35 days off, no questions asked.The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong. Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 831 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
Not only that, but that is only if you are a full time regular employee. I have been a contractor for the last two places I worked at. I work full time at one place, but I am not technically an employee of where I work. It's basically like a temp service. I get zero benefits.
"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yes, it is a company by company issue. Often unions include vacation in their contracts and so in that case it will extend across companies where workers are under the same union, but even there, any non-union workers are not assured of vacations.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Panda Member (Idle past 3742 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Hooah writes: The 28 days obligatory days are pro-rata-ed for part-time employees in the UK. Not only that, but that is only if you are a full time regular employee. I have been a contractor for the last two places I worked at.And contractors are paid more than standard employees to compensate them for no paid holidays/sickness pay/maternity leave/etc. If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4046 Joined: Member Rating: 7.6 |
I get a few paid holidays (Christmas, Thanksgiving and the day after, New Years Day, etc), and I get 15 days worth of "paid time off," which is combination sick and vacation time. It accumulates biweekly (I get an additional few hours of PTO every payday, basically), and I can never have more than 15 days saved at any time.
This is the most PTO I've ever had. Previous employers gave 10 days, or I was a contractor and had nothing. Contracting is particularly bad, because when the company you contract for gets a paid holiday (like Christmas or Thanksgiving), you don't get to work but you also don't get paid. "Holiday" becomes code for "stress out because your paycheck is short."
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 831 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
The 28 days obligatory days are pro-rata-ed for part-time employees in the UK. Part timers here get ZERO benefits.
And contractors are paid more than standard employees to compensate them for no paid holidays/sickness pay/maternity leave/etc. I get paid less than my co-workers, mainly due to the fact that the company I work at pays my contracting company and they take some off the top. Now, the place I work at very well could be paying my contracting company more than they pay regular employees, but they also don't have to pay for my benefits, nor do I get paid holidays. Any day I miss work, for ANY reason, I don't get paid."Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 831 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
Contracting is particularly bad, because when the company you contract for gets a paid holiday (like Christmas or Thanksgiving), you don't get to work but you also don't get paid. "Holiday" becomes code for "stress out because your paycheck is short." Fuckin tell me about it. My company is closed for like 6 days straight this x-mas. I have had to beg to work, still with no response if I can...."Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3991 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Recent sick-day legislation in Connecticut--one of our most liberal states--shows the current climate here.
(Disclosure: I live in Connecticut. Being well left of liberal, the effect of my residency is that I generally feel that I share a planet of origin with my neighbors.) The new law, the first in the nation, requires employers of 50 or more people to provide one hour of sick time for each 40 hours worked. So a full-time worker can accrue about six days per year, part-time workers considerably less. The law barely passed, and even so only because we have a Democratic governor for the first time in many years. The law had been introduced regularly for years but stalled in the face of a veto threat from a Republican governor. The response from the business community?
quote: Mandated vacation time?! Breaks? The horror, the horror. See, if we provide these Euro-Socialist perks to our workers, then we will undermine the lean, competitive companies that support our vibrant American economy. Then we will have persistently high unemployment and decades of stagnant wages. Oh. Wait."If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
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Panda Member (Idle past 3742 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Hooah writes: I know fellow Britains that slag off the UK, but it doesn't take much looking around to see that it has got a lot of important things right. Part timers here get ZERO benefits.If I were you And I wish that I were you All the things I'd do To make myself turn blue
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