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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi DWIII,
DWIII writes: One thing puzzles me, which, after a whopping 150-plus posts, seems to be dancing around an important issue: What was the geographical context at the time when this this was actually written? If you had read my posts there would be no puzzle as I have stated that the Earth's geography was the same at the time of the writing as it is today. The dividing of the dry land that appeared in Genesis 1:9, 10 that God called Earth took place more than a thousand years before the writing of Genesis. And yes the writer of Genesis knew about the Red Sea as they had crossed it just a few years prior to the writing of Genesis. He also knew about a body of water that had land mass on the other side as he fled there and stayed for 40 years.
DWIII writes: Is it not more plausible that the original creation texts, and subsequent Biblical writings, reflected the limited (but growing) geographical knowledge of the peoples who wrote it in the first place? A lot of things may be plausible but the author of Genesis was with the only eye wittness to the creation for 40 days. The same eye wittness that was there at the time of the flood. But if the land mass was in one place as it was at Pangea with the water in one place the geography would be a lot different than it is today. It could have been a flat piece of dirt like Grand Cayman in the Cayman Islands. The highest point above sea level is 79 feet. If that was the case then it would not require much water to cover the highest point with 15 cubits of water. So the volume of water needed to cover Mt Everest would be a non argument. How the animals got to all the different continents would be a mute point. How people got to all the places they were found would be solved. Why all civilizations when discovered worshiped some kind of a God would be solved. Why all civilizations when discovered had a flood story would be solved. Why there is no world wide evidence of a global flood would be solved. So the geography at the time of the flood is very important to being able to discuss the flood of Noah. If the geography was as I suggest there would be few problems. With the current discussions of Noah's flood in all the threads I have read so far the geography is as it is today creating a lot of problems that did not exist at the time of the flood. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Percy,
Percy writes: I know this point gets raised from time to time in discussions with you, but it's time to raise it again. How are you deciding when God uses supernatural means and when he relies upon natural methods? All natural methods are supernatural as God created the natural laws. So I don't see a difference in any of them.
Percy writes: God creates the entire universe ex nihilo via supernatural means, including humans, but when he scatters the people around the globe they aren't supernaturally transported but apparently have to travel by their own means. But I don't believe God created the entire universe ex nihilo. I believe the universe has always existed in some form just not in the form we see it today. Now if you know when the beginning of Genesis 1:1 took place you could share that information. So God's scattering the people on the face of the Earth by confounding their language is no problem for me. The dividing the land mass into the continents as we see it today is no problem. God created the Earth and everything on the Earth obeys His every command except mankind. That is the reason He destroyed the people on Earth with the flood of Noah. It is also the reason that many wars have been fought.
Percy writes: There are many possible interpretations of the Bible. Agreed. I have over a hundred different Bibles on my computer. I also have thousands of fragraments of the old writing in Hebrew and Greek, including the DSS.
Percy writes: why you think you're unique in this regard would be fascinating to expore. I don't have an option. I am either right and will reap the rewards. OR I am wrong and will pay the price for being wrong. Why do you think I have spent 48 years searching the scripturers and everything I can get my hands on to find the truth?
Percy writes: That were having this discussion has much more to do with your psychology than it does with the Bible. Maybe, but I think it is because I am still questioning everything. I do get a lot of input here as well as a lot of garbage. So I can discuss what I believe and compare to the answers I get and thus examine my beliefs to fine tune them.
Percy writes: we should move on to discuss the flood, but your ideas about the flood will suffer from the same problems as your ideas about creation. But I have been discussing the flood. I have been trying to determine what the geography was at the time of the flood. Since all the water under the heavens was gathered to one place with dry land protruding up out of it and not in the configuration it is today makes it a lot easier for the flood to have occured. I have asked many times in many different threads, "what would you expect to find" refering to a global flood. Well if all the dry land was in one place and was then divided as Pangea is said to have done after the flood had taken place you would not be able to find evidence for a global flood. The text I have presented and studied here states the Earth (the same word for the dry land in Genesis 1:10) was divided in the days of Peleg. Land all in one place, as presented by Pangea.Flood occurs. Land is divided into many places to which the land masses began to slow down to the rate they are moving today. So I don't have any problems with enough water to flood the land mass that had appeared out of the water when the water was collected to one place. Now you an others do have a problem with what I have presented but that is not my problem. That is yours. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Percy,
Percy writes: Your problem is a lack of faith in your God's power and majesty. I don't have a problem with what God can do. He could have caused the dry land to become wet land again just as easily as He caused the water to gather together in one place and allow the dry land to appear. But the text does not say He did it that way. The land mass at the time of the flood could have been as it is today with Mt Everest to be covered and God would have had no problem covering it with water. He could have raised the sea bottom and flooded the mountain tops, or He could have caused the dry land to become wet land again but the text does not say that. The text teaches that the land mass whatever shape it was in in Genesis 1:10 when He called it Earth was covered by water that fell in the form of rain and water that came from the fountains of the deep. That water covered the highest land mass by 15 Percy writes: A God who can create an entire universe in six days can do anything. And why do you think God created the entire universe in six days? You are refering to the 7 days of Moses found in Genesis 1:2 - 2:3. Genesis 1:1 says the heavens and the Earth existed prior to Genesis 1:2. Genesis 2:4 says in the day the Lord God created the Earth and the heavens. My God created the universe and Earth in one day not six.
Percy writes: The God of the universe could do everything you say even if the continents were scattered throughout the cosmos. Yes my God could do that. He could also have thousands of universes and Earths with people inhabiting them if He so desires. He just did not tell us about them as we don't need to know that information. So what ever the shape of the land mass at Genesis 1:10 called Earth, it was all connected as to allow the people to migrate to the separate parts of the land after God confounded their language and the quit building the tower to heaven because they could no longer understand each other. Mankind became wicked and God decided to start over and Noah found grace in the eyes of God. Grace is unmerited favor. No one deserves it and can only obtain it by the grace being bestowed upon them. So God bestowed His grace upon Noah and told him to build an ark as the world was going to be flooded.
quote: Since Noah found grace in the eyes of God he was told how to escape the flood that was going to come.
quote: God told Noah He was going to destroy mankind with the Earth. So Noah was instructed to build an ark of gopher wood and he was to make rooms in it and pitch it within and without with pitch. Pitch was a tar product. God gives Noah directions as to how to build the ark. He was to set a door in the side and place a window at the top. There was to be lower second and third stories below the door in the side. So the door was in the side on the forth floor which was 46.875 feet from the bottom. I am using the cubit of Sir Isaac Newton of 25 inches which was called the Holy cubit. Using Newton's Holy cubit the ark would have been 625 feet long, 104.16 feet wide, and 61.625 feet high. The ark could have had a draft of 44 feet without any problem. Everytime the ark is mentioned here at EvC it is usually refering to an ocean going boat. Well the ark was not a boat. The ark was built as a rectangle with a flat bottom according to the instructions I have read. Everybody here argues the ark would have colapsed from the exterior water pressure on the vessel. Nobody reads the verse where Noah was told to build rooms inside the ark. The ark would have been built with partion walls from side to side with floors just like you find in the larges wood hotel in existence today. So it would have been braced from end to end and side to side as well as from floor to floor. There would have been no problem with the structure of the ark. Next objection there was not enough room to house the animals. I have asked before and will ask again how much floor space would have been required to house the animals. Take into consideration God was going to supply the animals that was to be transported and therefore would have probably supplied young ones that would have been small. The last time I drew a ark for bluejay I was able to put 18 acres of storage space in the ark building the rooms on the four floors without any problems. I could make the rooms smaller for specific animals and could get at least 10 acres more storage room if it was required. Now if someone would tell me exactly how much room is required I would see what I can produce. There would be 4,011,787.5 cubic feet in the ark. After 120 years the ark was completed.
quote: Mankind had 120 years prior to the flood. At which time the ark was finished and ready. Noah was told to gather of all food that was eaten for the trip. He was not told how much to gather. Whatever he gathered was enough.
quote: Noah was not told to round up any animals for the trip.
quote: So when Noah was in the ark the animals came into the ark, as God had commanded. Some things of note about the ark. There was no preprations made by Noah for waste materials as that apparantly was not his job. Noah was told how to build the ark and to gather food for the journey. When the ark was finished and the time for the flood to begin Noah was told to go into the ark, with his family. When all cargo was aboard God shut the door.
quote: Whenever my God seals something it is protected until He unseals it. The rain began and the fountains of the deep opened up.
quote: The water increased and covered the dry earth causing all air breathing creatures to perish.
quote: Wherever dry land existed it became wet land and everything perished. The water prevailed upon the Earth 150 days and then began to assuage.
quote: After another 150 days the water was abated.
quote: Finally Noah opened the roof and looked and the Earth was dry.
quote: Then God told Noah to go forth and he and those with him did.
quote: Noah was told to go forth and replenish the earth. The same Hebrew word מלא used here was used in Genesis 1:28 and translated replenish as that is what was necessary as the Earth had been populated before the flood. Now there are those who say that boat won't float. By my caculations it should draw at least 44 feet of water. But according to the text the draft was 0 feet.
quote: The ark was on the surface of the water. Scientifically impossible. But not a problem for my God. Now if you or anyone else believes the Bible text says something else present it. God Bless, Edited by ICANT, : Replace meters with the proper measurment of cubits."John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Trixie,
Trixie writes: Ok, I'll bite. Going by your own statements you obviously agree with the texts that there were people around at the time of the flood. I even believe there was people on Earth prior to Genesis 1:2. In fact according to the text man was the first lifeform on planet Earth.
Trixie writes: Pangaea is thought to have broken up 175 million years ago and humans are thought to have been around for the last 250,000 years or so. How do you reconcile this discrepancy? Magic words thought to have broken up 175 million years ago. There are a lot of things that are thought to be. Lets see that number is arrived at by assuming that the rate the continents are moving at today has always been the rate of movement. Then again it could have been moved instantly and just has not competely stopped yet. So no I don't have a problem, and don't see a discrepancy. The text that has been discussed in this thread states the Earth (same as the dry land in Genesis 1:10) was divided in the days of Peleg. Which was after the flood. There are a lot of assumptions that have been made about the flood also. But assumptions are just that. They are things that are assumed to be true whether they are true or false. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi jar,
jar writes: Sorry but nothing in there about "That water covered the highest land mass by 15 meters" or any fountains of the deep or even any mountains. And nobody said the land mass in Genesis 1:10 was covered in water. But for your information all land in Genesis 1:2 was wet land as there was no dry land.
quote: There was no dry land in Chapter 1 of Genesis until the waters was gathered into one place and dry land appeared in Genesis 1:9. So yes the dry land in Genesis had been covered with water. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi jar,
jar writes: Show where the text says what you say in the quote above? If you could read and not cherry pick what you want to fuss about you would have understood that I was talking about the land mass at the time of Noah's flood as that land mass was in the same configuration as it was in Genesis 1:10. Here is the entire quote you quote mined to get your statement you could refute.
quote: God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi jar,
jar writes: Where does the text teach " that the land mass whatever shape it was in in Genesis 1:10 when He called it Earth was covered by water that fell in the form of rain and water that came from the fountains of the deep. That water covered the highest land mass by 15 meters." Actually it does not as for some reason I used meters rather than cubits in Message 162 I did a strikethrough and added cubits for meters.
quote: But if the land mass in Genesis 1:9, 10 was all in one place at the time of the flood, the highest point was covered by 15 cubits of water. If the land mass in Genesis 1:9, 10 was in the configuration it is today the highest point was covered by 15 cubits of water.
jar writes: I'm sorry but so far it just seems that you are making shit up to avoid admitting that Genesis 1 does not say that the land was one mass and that none of this has anything to do with what the KJV says about the flood. Genesis 1:9 says the water was gathered to one place and dry land appeared. Logic says if the water is in one place the land would be in one place. But since you disagree lets move further. A verse you quoted as evidence the land mass was not in one place.
quote: The Hebrew word אי translated isles should have been translated region, but I know you will disagree with that also.
quote: The Hebrew word ארץ translated countries is the same word in Genesis 1:10 translated Earth which was the dry land that appeared in Genesis 1:9. But again you will probably disagree.
quote: The same Hebrew word ארץ tranlsted Earth here is the same word translated Earth in Genesis 1:10 that the dry land that appeared in Genesis 1:9 was called. You will probably disagree with that also.
quote: The same Hebrew word ארץ tranlsted lands here is the same word translated Earth in Genesis 1:10 that the dry land that appeared in Genesis 1:9 was called. You will probably disagree with that also. The Hebrew word גוי translated nations means people as well as nations. Due to the fact it is talking about the people, not location.
quote: The same Hebrew word ארץ tranlsted Earth here is the same word translated Earth in Genesis 1:10 that the dry land that appeared in Genesis 1:9 was called. You will probably disagree with that also.
quote: The same Hebrew word ארץ tranlsted Earth here is the same word translated Earth in Genesis 1:10 that the dry land that appeared in Genesis 1:9 was called. You will probably disagree with that also.
quote: The same Hebrew word ארץ tranlsted Earth here is the same word translated Earth in Genesis 1:10 that the dry land that appeared in Genesis 1:9 was called. You will probably disagree with that also. After the flood the people were scattered abroad over the face of the Earth. Did God just take them up and place them on different continents? If so how did they leave off from building the city? They were already gone if God snatched them up and placed them elsewhere. But if they could not understand each other and simply migrated to places where there was people they could understand then God scattered them by confusing the language. Now back to the flood. The shape of the land mass in Genesis 1:9, 10 has directly to do with the flood as it was in the same configeration when the flood occured. If the land mass was in one place we would not know the elevation of that land mass. The only way we could know the elevation of the land mass in Genesis 1:9, 10 is if it was the same as it is today. This is the assumption that is made in the treads where the flood has been debated. But the text of Genesis 10:25 says the ארץ (Earth) was פלג (split, divided) in the days of Peleg, which was after the flood. Knowing the elevation of the land mass would determine the amount of water required to cover the land mass. If the land mass was all in one place the problem of how did the animals get to the ark from all over the Earth is solved. If the Earth was divided after the flood as the text says: How humans were found on many different lands would be solved. How the animals got scattered over all the now known Earth would be solved. Fossils of animals is one of the proofs presented for Pangea so it would be proofs of the land being in one place at one time. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Trixie,
Trixie writes: The only thing we have, prior to Gen 1:2, in the texts is Gen 1:1 Along with the history of that day God created the heavens and the Earth recorded in Genesis 2:4 - 4:26.
Trixie writes: which is a one sentence summary of what is about to happen. Genesis 1:1 is a declarative statement with a subject, verb of completed action and the results of that action being the heavens and the Earth existed.
Trixie writes: Nope! That dating is based on similar geological makeup of the continents prior to that date and differences after that date. Which simply is proof that the land mass was all in one place. It has nothing to do with dating when it was all in one place.
Trixie writes: I'm sure Peleg and pals would have noticed this and the event would have deserved more than a passing nod. Sure they would have noticed. They would have believed a great earthquake took place. Why would they think anything else took place?
Trixie writes: You have man wandering around on a supercontinent which didn't even exist by the time man first appeared yet you claim there are no discrepancies. You are assuming mankind was not around when the land mass was all in one place. Do you have any proof? Yes I have man wandering around on a single land mass that had been flooded between 100 and 300 years prior, building cities, speaking one language whose language was confused and they could not understand each other and thus scattered over the face of that land mass.
Trixie writes: If your entire belief in the flood scenario rests on these ridiculous mental and textual gymnastics, it says more about belief problems you have with the texts as they stand. I don't have a problem with what I believe. I believe Genesis 1:1, God created the heavens and the Earth.I believe Genesis 1:9, water gathered to one place leaving dry land. I believe Genesis 1:10, God called the dry land Earth. I believe Genesis 6:14, God told Noah to build an ark of gopher wood. I believe Genesis, 7:5, Noah did all that God comanded. I believe Genesis 7:7, Noah entered the ark. I believe Genesis 7:8, 9, living critters came in unto Noah in the ark. I believe Genesis 7:16, God shut Noah in the ark. I believe Genesis 7:19, that all the land mass under heaven was covered with water. I believe Genesis 8:16, they went forth out of the ark after the flood waters subscided. I believe Genesis 10:25, that the Earth was split/divided in the days of Peleg. So I don't see where I have a problem with my belief. You and others may have a problem with what I believe but I don't. If you are interested in what I believe you can check out my threads on this site. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi jar,
jar writes: No where in the Bible does it say that the geography and configuration of the world was the same at the moment represented by Gen 1:10 and at the time described by the flood myths. Where does it say it was different prior to Genesis 10:25 when it says in the days of Peleg was the Earth split/divided?
jar writes: The Generations stories (Genesis 10) are also a separate and independent set of stories and no where do they talk about any physical changes in the geography or configuration of the world. They are talking about areas of political, tribal and nation-state control. Are you saying the Hebrew word ארץ which means Earth in Genesis 1:1, does not mean Earth in the stories in Genesis chapters 10, and 11? What do you base that upon? Present your evidence.
jar writes: When we look at Genesis 11 we find that it is mutually exclusive with Genesis 10; if one is true then the other is false. Then start a thread and present your evidence and we will discuss it.
jar writes: Genesis 1, Genesis 10 & Genesis 11 still say nothing about the Flood Myths. That is your warped assumption. Genesis 1:9, 10, tells us the condition of the Earth prior to the flood. Genesis 10:25 tells us what happened to the Earth between 200 and 300 years after the flood. Genesis chapter 11 tells us what the people did after the flood with them being scattered over the face of the Earth and the Earth then was split/divided as was stated in Genesis 10:25 during the lifetime of Peleg. Why do you continue to argue the Bible in Bible threads when you believe it is just one great big bunch of myths? God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Trixie,
Trixie writes: Just as an aside, I believe there is a thread on the translation of "Earth" and a better translation would be "land". I can't find that thread, would you give a little more information? Would that be the wet land or the dry land? Or would it be the wet land and the dry land that compose the crust and mantel along with the core of the Earth? All the wet land was covered before the flood and during the flood all the dry land was also covered with water.
quote: So if dry land existed on the planet Earth it was covered by water. You may be right that all the land mass was not in one place at the time of the flood. Which would make it a little more difficult to cover with water especially if the geography was as it is today, as it would take a lot more water. But for God it would be no problem. But the text says the Earth, the same thing the dry land in Genesis 1:10 was called פלג was split/divided in the days of Peleg. Explain how it could be split/divided if it was already split/divided."John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Trixie,
Trixie writes: IF dry land existed...." has boggled my mind. It wouldn't have had you read it in context rather than cherry picking what you wanted to question.
quote: Dry land did exist in Genesis 1:10 so it was covered with the water in Genesis 7:19, 20.
Trixie writes: Has it occurred to you that the division of the "land" in the days of Peleg may refer to political/tribal division? It hasn't crossed my mind since 1968 when we argued for 3 months in Hebrew class with several scholars as to what was recorded. Had the writer wanted to refer to political/tribal division he would have used the same words he used elsewhere.
quote: Note: It says the nations were divided in the Earth after the flood. That took place in Genesis 11:9. The Hebrew word גוי translated nations also means people. The Hebrew word משפחה translated families also means tribe and clan. Since the statement in Genesis 10:25 which is only 7 verses away from verse 32 it means what it says. Genesis 10:25 says the ארץ was split/divided. It does not say the גוי, nations were split/divided. It does not say the משפחה, tribes or clans was split/divided. So what makes you think it was a national (political) or tribal split/division?
Trixie writes: It makes more sense and is in context with the rest of the story that it appears in. So it makes more sense to you that the writer used Earth in Genesis 10:25 to mean tribal or national split/division rather than the words he used in 10:5, 20, 31, and 32. The author used גוי nations, and משפחה, tribes in all of those verses. It is totaly illogical that the author would use ארץ Earth, if he wanted to convey the thought of a tribal or national split/division. Can you give me one logical reason an author would do that? God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Trixie,
Trixie writes: Did the writer use Earth or did the translators? Genesis 1:1 The Hebrew word ארץ is translated Earth. All definitions I give will be from Genesius's Hebrew Lexicon.
ארץ means:earth 1) whole earth (as opposed to a part) 2) earth (as opposed to heaven)
ארץ is translated Earth in Genesis 1:1, 2, 10, 11, 12, 15, 17, 20, 22, 24, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30. This is just the first chapter in the Bible. גוי translated nations means:1) nation, people משפחה translated families means:clan 1) family 2) tribe These two Hebrew words are used in Genesis chapter 10 in verses 5, 20, 31, 32. You find sandwiched between verse 20 and 31 verse 10 which has the Hebrew word: ארץ translated Earth. So no the translators did not supply the Hebrew words they supplied the English words for the Hebrew words that is what translation is.
Trixie writes: In the time of Moses would the writer have any concept of Earth? Earth, with a capital "E", is the name of the planet. The man who was privileged to view God and spent 40 days with Him would have had all the knowledge he needed to write what God told Him to write. That is why he could write about the creation, the flood, the scattering of the people and the division of the Earth.
Trixie writes: This is discussed in the thread I gave you the link for. Did you read the thread you are refering me too? I have 15 posts in that thread. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Joseph,
IamJoseph writes: What Genesis says about the Noah flood. The opening preamble in the text: Pre-amble: Pre means before the start. Are you saying that chapter 6 has nothing to do with the flood of Noah?
IamJoseph writes: And that is why no wild animals are listed. quote: What animal is left out of "every living thing of all flesh"? If it was alive there was to be at least a male and a female on the ark. Are you saying there was no wild animals alive on the planet Earth at the time Noah lived? God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Joseph,
IamJoseph writes: I can list a host of factors and texts you guys blatantly ignore. Then back up your assertions with the Hebrew text that supports that only domesticated animals were allowed onboard the ark. Back up your assertion that unclean animals refer to beasts of burden.
IamJoseph writes: Comprehension of the text is the first measuring yardstick of any pretend science. Then you missed the boat a long time ago. We can start understand with your presentation of the texts asked for in this post. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Joseph,
IamJoseph writes: Yes, 'THOU AND THY HOUSEHOLLD' [only] is the preamble relating to Noah and his possessions, confirmed with 'RIGHTIOUS IN "THIS" [Noah's] GENERATION', Noah is the only person to have been said to be in a right relationship with God and found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
quote: IamJoshep writes: the size of the boat and that not a single wild animal is listed. Where does the text mention a boat? Where in Genesis 1:1 through 2:25 are wild animals listed? What is wrong with the size of the ark? How small do you think it was? According to the text the ark was: 625 feet long, 104.16 feet wide, and 61.625 feet high containing 4,011,787.5 cubic feet. So how big would the ark have to be to hold the cargo specified by God? There are between 10,000 and 17,000 species alive today, so what would be the cubit feet of space required for them to be transported on the ark? God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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