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Straggler
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Message 196 of 356 (642556)
11-29-2011 6:02 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by crashfrog
11-29-2011 3:03 PM


Re: Draws
Quidditch. A sport invented by a novelist (if I say female novelist will I be revealing my latent sporting sexism?). A sport where two teams struggle away for a period of time to score a trivial amount of points and then a 1000 points are awarded to whoever (i.e. Harry Potter) catches the little ball, thus making all preceding play utterly pointless.

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Straggler
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Message 197 of 356 (642560)
11-29-2011 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 194 by Theodoric
11-29-2011 4:38 PM


Re: Draws
Thoe writes:
I find the sport absolutely mesmerizing.
At it's best it is edge of the seat stuff. But even I have to admit that over a period of 5 days there are points where it is more hypnotic than truly intense.
During a big series (e.g the Ashes) we have it on the radio at work for the 5 day match pretty much non-stop. When a match turning period of play is taking place we all sprint down the pub to see the action or get the big screens in the boardroom up and running with TV coverage.

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crashfrog
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Message 198 of 356 (642577)
11-29-2011 7:54 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by Straggler
11-29-2011 6:02 PM


Re: Draws
A sport invented by a novelist (if I say female novelist will I be revealing my latent sporting sexism?). A sport where two teams struggle away for a period of time to score a trivial amount of points and then a 1000 points are awarded to whoever (i.e. Harry Potter) catches the little ball, thus making all preceding play utterly pointless.
The quintessentially English sport!

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 199 of 356 (642673)
11-30-2011 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by Straggler
11-29-2011 5:58 PM


Re: Draws
I am struggling to explain it adequately I know.......
Not really, but you are trying to explain how great sports are to a sports fan. You are preaching to the choir, I get that it can be an exciting game, and people love it. Some people like golf, or Tennis, or watching people drive cars really fast, or cricket or soccer, or whatever.
For the most part in many circumstances draws are really booring to watch. Yeah there may be some good ones, for instance if your team is in the world cup and you are playing the best team in the world and to get to the next round you need to not lose to them, then a draw against them would be great (not as great as an upset), but I think I can understand.
The Ashes as I understand it is a different circumstance, because it is only two teams, and the same two teams play each other for the same trophy every year, here a draw would probably result in the last winner retaining the trophy. It seems more like a rivalry game than a championship. There are a lot of these in USA college football, where one school plays another school every year (and has for 100 years) for a trophy that the winner gets to keep until next year when they both play again.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 200 of 356 (642675)
11-30-2011 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 194 by Theodoric
11-29-2011 4:38 PM


Re: Draws
I'd put it down in the south west. Somewhere near Baraboo or spring Green. Then you could be secluded but also fee off some tourism runoff.

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Theodoric
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Message 201 of 356 (642676)
11-30-2011 1:46 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by Artemis Entreri
11-30-2011 1:35 PM


Re: Draws
I already have the 300 acre spot picked out. Part of my wife's grandfather's old farm(family doesn't own it anymore). It is up near Superior, could get some of the Duluth tourist crowd I guess. But a "field of Dreams" needs to be a destination spot. A place people pursue not go to ad an afterthought.
But need to start buying those lottery tickets fist.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Straggler
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Message 202 of 356 (642691)
11-30-2011 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 201 by Theodoric
11-30-2011 1:46 PM


Re: Draws
Build it, and they will come.....

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Straggler
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Message 203 of 356 (642696)
11-30-2011 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 199 by Artemis Entreri
11-30-2011 1:28 PM


Re: Draws
AE writes:
The Ashes as I understand it is a different circumstance, because it is only two teams, and the same two teams play each other for the same trophy every year, here a draw would probably result in the last winner retaining the trophy.
It is roughly every two years (there are other countries to play as well in between!!!!) and alternates between Australia and England in location. To win the ashes away from home is a big big achievement.
If the series is drawn the previous winner does indeed retain the ashes. You have to actually defeat th present holder to win the ashes back.

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Boof
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Message 204 of 356 (642702)
11-30-2011 4:58 PM


I can't wait until Straggler starts to try and explain the Duckworth Lewis Method.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 205 of 356 (642714)
11-30-2011 7:41 PM
Reply to: Message 201 by Theodoric
11-30-2011 1:46 PM


Re: Draws
i agree it should be a destination, but why would I even know about Spring Green, WI? because of the amazing destination there. would I travel and stay in spring green? no, but I would take a day trip there from the Dells, or from Madison. The Circus brought me to Baraboo, but once again it is a day trip.
There is a lot of fun "destinations" in the cheesey state, but a central location is somewhat key IMHO.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 206 of 356 (642716)
11-30-2011 7:53 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by Boof
11-30-2011 4:58 PM


one thing at a time.
rules, gameplay, and draws for now.

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Straggler
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Message 207 of 356 (642734)
12-01-2011 7:03 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by Boof
11-30-2011 4:58 PM


Boof writes:
I can't wait until Straggler starts to try and explain the Duckworth Lewis Method.
Fortunately proper cricket (i.e. Test cricket of the 5 day variety) doesn't rely on such statistical chicanery. Only the fast food versions of cricket (McCricket) which nobody really cares about anyway can be won by the team with the best statistician on board.
But for those wondering what this rather oddly named Duckworth Lewis stuff is about here is a link.
But be warned that neither of even Duckworth or Lewis actually understand it so to anyone unfamiliar with cricket terminology or the basic rules of the game they might as well be speaking in tongues.

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Chuck77
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Message 208 of 356 (642827)
12-02-2011 1:33 AM


Cricket, pudding, bangers & mash
Nothin like watching a game of Cricket while throwing down some bangers and mash while the pudding is singing on the copper.

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Larni
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Message 209 of 356 (642830)
12-02-2011 3:18 AM
Reply to: Message 208 by Chuck77
12-02-2011 1:33 AM


Re: Cricket, pudding, bangers & mash
For best results, turn off the cricket and put a game that does not take 5 days to watch.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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Straggler
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From: London England
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Message 210 of 356 (642837)
12-02-2011 5:16 AM
Reply to: Message 208 by Chuck77
12-02-2011 1:33 AM


Re: Cricket, pudding, bangers & mash
Chuck I have no idea what you are talking about.
Are you (along with Duckworth and Lewis) speaking in tongues.

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