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dronestar
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Message 17 of 256 (673473)
09-19-2012 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by crashfrog
09-19-2012 2:50 PM


"There's a campaign of hatred against us in the Middle East . . ."
Crash writes:
It's the result of decades of Muslim-world leaders fomenting anti-Americanism.
It appears the US government knows exactly why that is:
quote:
from a declassified Eisenhower Administration memo:
President Eisenhower, in an internal discussion, observed to his staff, and I'm quoting now, "There's a campaign of hatred against us in the Middle East, not by governments, but by the people." The National Security Council discussed that question and said, "Yes, and the reason is, there's a perception in that region that the United States supports status quo governments, which prevent democracy and development and that we do it because of our interests in Middle East oil. Furthermore, it's difficult to counter that perception because it's correct."[59]
Bernard Lewis - Wikipedia
Edited by dronester, : No reason given.

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Message 19 of 256 (673478)
09-19-2012 3:56 PM
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09-19-2012 3:35 PM


Re: "There's a campaign of hatred against us in the Middle East . . ."
Crash writes:
If it really goes back that far?
"If"?
Crash writes:
If we retreated in every respect from involvement in the Middle East, wouldn't they just see that as the next level of deception?
America shouldn't stop targeting their children with drone missiles and stop supporting dictatorships that oppress their lives for oil profits only because they might consider it the next level of deception. Rather, america should stop targeting their children with drone missiles and stop dictatorships that oppress their lives for oil profits because it is the moral thing to do.

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Message 21 of 256 (673481)
09-19-2012 4:09 PM
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09-19-2012 4:00 PM


Re: "There's a campaign of hatred against us in the Middle East . . ."
Jar writes:
Do you have any evidence that the US targeted children for drone attacks or is this simply more of your unsupported assertions?
If you were the parent of a dead child killed from a drone attack, which would be vastly more comforting to you?:
1. Your dead child was targeted.
2. Your dead child was accidentally killed along with hundreds of other children in hundreds of other previous drone attacks?
Or how about:
If I "accidentally" became drunk, then killed one child every day for ten years, then killed your child, would you still accept my apologies for "accidentally" killing your child? If no, why not?
Edited by dronester, : added "?"

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Message 23 of 256 (673483)
09-19-2012 4:13 PM
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09-19-2012 4:09 PM


Re: "There's a campaign of hatred against us in the Middle East . . ."
It's seems to be a common forum hazard.

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Message 28 of 256 (673488)
09-19-2012 4:31 PM
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09-19-2012 4:23 PM


Re: "There's a campaign of hatred against us in the Middle East . . ."
First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly how to remove the splinter from your brother's eye.

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