I wasn't addressing your claim that name calling is not what disqualifies you as being a Christian. If you had made that claim, I would have agreed with it. I was just pointing out that Christianity does indeed have something to say on the matter of getting angry to the point of name calling, so saying it has 'nothing whatsoever to do with christianity' is just not true. I would agree that Christian teachings don't spend a lot of time on name calling, but its not so absent as to say that it is 'nothing whatsoever to do with' it.
Yes, the bible says alot about getting angry and the use of the tongue, but the original point that I was making was in response to the following from subbie.
subbie writes:
My question to you is whether you consider the kind of name calling the GOP does to be Christian?
Name calling is neither Christian nor buddhist or muslim or whatever. It is a human behavior shared by all. It has nothing to do with what Christianity is all about. That was my point. I'm not saying Christianity has nothing to say about the subject. Name calling is not a distinguishing characteristic of Christians. Avoiding name calling is not a distinguishing characteristic of Christians. It is a distinguishing characteristic of those who are always polite no matter what the circumstances. If is more of a distinguishing characteristic of some than others, but whether one is christian or not does not make them any less likely to name call especially under extenuating circumstances. I could have answered subbie better with something like this:
Name calling is not the calling card of the GOP and lack of name calling is not the calling card of the Christian so the question is ridiculous and moot and is merely antagonistic in nature.
I guess liberals don't know they are liberals these days.
That should be blatantly obvious to you by now. Media liberals don't know they are liberal. Liberal politicians don't know they are liberal. EVC liberals don't know they are liberal. All they know is that they are not hateful, reactionary, homophobic right wingers.
Damn. You make me jealous. That is exactly the kind of response I wish I had floating around in my noggin. The logic of it was in bits and pieces and unconnected in my subconscious. This is exactly how I thought but it takes someone who has put all the pieces together in their mind to be able to articulate it.
I haven't responded to them because there are a plethora of posts addressed to me and actually I only read your first line. I haven't even read the rest of your post. I can only stand to read just so much of your guys posts on here. I just randomly light my eyes on something and I usually can't go very far before I have to respond. That was the case here. As you can see, just one point will go on and on and on and on. Just think what would happen if we engaged on every point you brought up? You guys seem to think I concede points because I don't address them. There are a million such points (hyperbole) directed toward me. You guys get just a few points directed SOLELY at you on a daily basis. Feel fortunate that I responded to you at all.
That's exactly right. Christianity is all about what God did for us through his Son. It has absolutely nothing to do with us and especially nothing to do with our actions.
They don't produce cognitive dissonance in me; they produce anger. I can't repeat the thoughts that go through my head after reading posts on here. There is lots of blood involved for sure. I get angry because the way you argue and debate on here is deceitful in the extreme and often hateful and mocking.
It's the same kind of anger servicemen would feel in world war 2 while listening to tokyo rose. It is nothing but deceitful propaganda.
I was going to say this in the Buzzsaw memorial thread, but it would be disrespectful to him. I was going to say that I have been told I have a high risk of suicide and I must agree that it has crossed my mind several times. When I found about how easy it was to poison yourself with carbon monoxide, I gave it serious consideration. I am in severe depression when I am not busy and have time to think. When I have some spare time, I will see a school counselor but they are only available 3 days a week and about 9 hours total a week. I need lexapro and lithium.
It seems that you are the only who recognized my problem has nothing to do with this forum. It is something in my personal life. It revolves around who I am as a person and the difficulties that has made in my life. This forum would still get me angry if I didn't have these problems , I just wouldn't react as severely as I do. Yes, I am pissed as hell about this problem, and no, I don't want to talk about it here. The few people I have discussed this with in real life can only seem to get a shallow understanding of it or end up being judgmental about it.
That said, the issues on here that I disagree with everybody about are deadly serious to me apart from any of my personal problems. I would still get worked up about them but would probably handle them better.
I think the term "liberalism" should be reserved for positions other than mere statements of the bleedin' obvious,
That's just it. A true conservatives definition of liberalism isn't restricted to policy positions; it's a state of mind; It's an attitude. The fact that "Coulter is a provocateur spreading hate" is bleedin obvious to YOU puts you in a category of people who also agree that it is obvious. This category separates you from people who don't think it's bleedin obvious. Those people are conservatives and non political people as well.
I can read and I think I know Ann Coulter better than you do. Conservatives generally know fellow conservatives better than liberals do. That said, no, it isn't bleedin obvious that she is a provocateur spreading hate.
This is for jar in particular and rahvin and a few others who thought my definition of Christianity rather peculiar. The following video describes what Christianity is all about and not what the bible has to say about little details of morality and different behaviors that people seem to focus on here and imply that if you do these behaviors, you cannot be Christian:
This is just but one video in a whole set from the same people.
The video goes into detail in how they interpret the bible which I agree with. People think Christianity is what is said in the red letters in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Those are from Jesus while he was here on earth directed toward a people who were going rule the earth in peace for a millenium. That failed to happen and instead of judgement on his people and on the world, he ushered in the age of grace. Christianity is concerned with the doctrine of that age of grace. It is not centered on what we do but who we are in Christ. That is Christianity. People scratch their heads when they see their particular behaviors (ones that matter the most to them as far as Christianity goes) not being followed in a short time span and with a narrow group of people. They think to themselves that there is no way a Christian could ever behave in a such a way. Yes, according to my view of Christianity, they certainly can. The video explains how.
When you stand at 3, everything to the right of you is conservative. When you stand at 7, everything to the left of you is liberal, and the two of you will disagree about 4, 5 and 6.
Why can't you get DrA and most others here to understand that. Most of you guys are 2 or less on that scale and that it why you see fordham university as conservative.
So where are you on the scale that you see it as liberal?
Look at it this way. Break the country up into percentiles with the 10 % who hold the most liberal values at 1 and the 10 % with the most conservative value at 10. I am probably at 8 very religious conservatives above me and ayn rand types economically above me as well. All Universities are either 1 or 2 except for the rare ones like liberty university and hillsdale college. The fact that fordham is religious doesn't make it conservative except on perhaps a few points like abortion and marriage. I wouldn't be surprised if fordham supports choice and gay marriage or believes the government should have no say in it.
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