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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2880 days) Posts: 397 Joined: |
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2880 days) Posts: 397 Joined: |
An odd thing is that I used to have lots of scientist friends, some great discussions too.
Why did you kill them? Where did you bury them?
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2880 days) Posts: 397 Joined: |
I'll be your friend.
The earth really is young.When you are judged you will be greatly rewarded for shouting down science. Feel better now?
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2880 days) Posts: 397 Joined: |
The tests you apply to radiometric dating cannot be verified because there is nothing in the past itself to verify them. It all remains theory/hypothesis/conjecture/imagination from beginning to end because of the basic facts of the situation you are dealing with. Really too bad you can't grasp this basic fact. Hezekiah's Siloam tunnel to the rescue.
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2880 days) Posts: 397 Joined: |
they don't sort by radiometric isotope, I didn't say they did but that's something to think about. Tic toc, tic toc, there, that should do it. What were we discussing again?
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2880 days) Posts: 397 Joined:
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Plants and animals carried along with everything else and deposited in strata where the weight crushed them eventually into oil and coal. Tectonically buckled formations where oil could collect and so on. It's perfectly reasonable, it makes sense.
And this is where Noah got the pitch for the ark? Oops.
Not from a fault line.
Is it a crack like a butt crack? That would explain all the shite.
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2880 days) Posts: 397 Joined:
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Faith states: From what I can see... there's only 1 Grand Canyon in the world.
Modulous responds:Yarlung Tsangpo Grand Canyon Fish River Canyon Tara River Canyon And probably some more. Now that we've covered the grand Canyon in detail can we have a repetition of this thread for each of these other canyons as well? *ducks* 12 Most Beautiful Canyons of the World (with Map) - TouropiaDatabase Error greatest canyons of the world Archives - DoYouKnowTurkey http://www.travels.tl/the-deepest-canyons-in-the-world/ The largest Canyon in the world - Design Swan And I'm particularly interested in this canyon: (JonF posted this in the biology area but it needs to be in this thread. I saw this before but lost the reference, so I'm glad to have it back. I'm including just the snippets that made the strongest impressions in hopes the post is short enough not to lose Faith.)
quote: quote: quote: Old Earth Creation Science Testimony - Why I Left Young Earth
Creationism, by Glenn Morton
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2880 days) Posts: 397 Joined: |
Did you read the referenced article? Apparently not. Believe it or not I can understand this reticence on your part having gone through the experience myself.
quote: The flood carved underground canyons? And it built underground mountains too?? (I'll get to your other posts later.)
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2880 days) Posts: 397 Joined: |
Why would you think that I attributed the quote about underground mountains to you when it is an argument against your model?
"The problem with the image of the canyon" is that it falsifies your model altogether regardless of where it is located, it's size, depth, or anything else. And it's canyons and mountains, plural not singular. I didn't read any of it, it's off topic for me right now.
Of course it is. Falsifications: off topic. But here are the ten (off topic) sentences for the non-delusional lurkers:
quote:Old Earth Creation Science Testimony - Why I Left Young Earth Creationism, by Glenn Morton
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2880 days) Posts: 397 Joined: |
It's the way the quote is presented that makes it appear to be attributed to me. That's how I originally saw it and I still ask you to make it clearer that it's a quote from Morton.
Ok, it's quoted from Morton. The reference to your other posts was about the salt post.
That paragraph of Morton's is full of stuff that begs a ton of questions, but it's just typical stuff that delusional OE believers swallow whole.
Like Morton? Who was a YEC??
First of all, as usual it's nothing but interpretation.
Of evidence.As opposed to Faith's interpretation. Of scripture. Shouldn't science present what is actually observed, in enough detail for others to investigate the claims? You can't do laboratory experiments on such phenomena so at least you should be careful to give other researchers the information needed to come to their own conclusions. That seems to be a huge failure of evo and OE "science" in general
As opposed to *creationist researchers* who bring absolutely nothing to the table, who provide no evidence of anything, who whine and demand to be spoon fed basic physics and chemistry so that they too can properly interpret evidence that is simple and very straight forward?
Thick layers. What EXACTLY is he seeing? We need DESCRIPTION. We need EVIDENCE.
Who is this we? Is it wee little you that is too lazy to look up references and investigate anything on her own?
I see NOTHING in what he's said that requires time. What is the matter with you people that you can't see through this?
Poof, an earth, poof stars and sun, poof Adam complete with memories to walk and talk and get into trouble with Eve. Clearly you see NOTHING that requires time.We DO see through this. His remarks about faults lose me. What's the problem here?
More problems with cracks? You have attributed all tectonic activity to one small window of time. A couple of streets in the town of Pushover, North Dakota.
I would continue this discussion but I've spied a homeless person rambling on incoherently into the air. Bye.
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2880 days) Posts: 397 Joined: |
In looking over the flat earth society forum I saw interesting parallels to YECism.
Teach the controversy
This site is not a joke. We are actively promoting the Flat Earth Movement worldwide.
Shallow observation of evidence
The evidence for a flat earth is derived from many different facets of science and philosophy. The simplest is by relying on ones own senses to discern the true nature of the world around us. The world looks flat, the bottoms of clouds are flat, the movement of the sun; these are all examples of your senses telling you that we do not live on a spherical heliocentric world. This is using what's called an empiricist approach, or an approach that relies on information from your senses.
Willful abuse of evidence, carbon dating the shell of a living mollusk?
Perhaps the best example of flat earth proof is the Bedford Level Experiment. In short, this was an experiment preformed many times on a six-mile stretch of water that proved the surface of the water to be flat. It did not conform to the curvature of the earth that round earth proponents teach.
The claim that evidence is not looked at objectively, but interpreted to fit the existing model
In light of the above, please note that we are not suggesting that space agencies are aware that the earth is flat and actively covering the fact up. They depict the earth as being round simply because that is what they expect it to be.
This is very similar to YEC arguments against the reliability of radiometric dating techniques
There are many pictures on the internet and in other media depicting the earth as being round. Why do these not disprove flat earth theory? In general, we at the Flat Earth Society do not lend much credibility to photographic evidence. It is too easily manipulated and altered. Many of the videos posted here to "prove a round earth" by showing curvature will show no curvature or even convex curvature at parts. The sources are so inaccurate it's difficult to build an argument on them in either case. Furthermore, barrel distortion and other quirks of modern cameras will cause a picture to distort with little or no apparent altercation; especially without references within the picture. Photographs are also prone to distortion when taken through the bent glass of a pressurized cabin as well as atmospheric conditions on the outside. With this litany of problems, it's easy to see why photographic evidence is not to be trusted.
This is very comparable to Faith's canyons carved underground in degree of silliness
How do you explain day and night cycles? Day and night cycles are easily explained on a flat earth. The sun moves in circles around the North Pole. When it is over your head, it's day. When it's not, it's night. The sun acts like a spotlight and shines downward as it moves.
This is comparable in nuttiness to attributing the geologic column to the flood
Why doesn't gravity pull the earth into a spherical shape? The earth isn't pulled into a sphere because the force known as gravity doesn't exist or at least exists in a greatly diminished form than is commonly taught. The earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared (or 9.8 meters per second squared). This constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity. TOP 10 REASONS Why "We Know the Earth is Round" Debunked
Refusing scientific results because of supposed assumptions
3. The Coriolis EffectOnce again, Henry is making assumptions. There are a few differing opinions about this, as Flat Earth Theory is not a unified theory. Some people doubt the existence of Coriolis as anything more than a theorized force, as the evidence for it is largely contrived. Others have various explanations for it, such as the Shadow of the Aetheric Wind theorized by myself. This type of reasoning look familiar to anyone else? Or is it just me?
8. The HorizonThis is just a perspective effect. First of all, apparently large waves will obscure apparently small objects. Therefore, looking out long distances over water you will of course be unable to see land on the other side. In addition, refraction has an effect. Some flat Earthers theorize an electromagnetic acceleration which appears to bend light upward. |
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2880 days) Posts: 397 Joined: |
Oh good, I was trying to imagine the light source coming from the right side.
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