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Author Topic:   Religions are fairy tales for adults. Should we encourage them to grow up?
Greatest I am
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Message 89 of 424 (767070)
08-25-2015 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by Faith
08-25-2015 8:04 PM


Faith
What God and what truth can an idol worshiper like you possibly know when you have said that you are too stupid to judge your God yet have judged him good?
Your self delusion is to be pitied as you think I hate an imaginary God.
I would not care what idiocy you believe if your ilk and religion was not a homophobic and misogynous one that does much harm to others.
Regards
DL
Edited by Greatest I am, : No reason given.
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Message 95 of 424 (767076)
08-25-2015 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by Faith
08-25-2015 8:33 PM


Faith
Gays do not care if you do not recognize gays as equal or their union.
They do if you discriminate against then because of it.
We do not care how deluded you are but do when your ilk do evil and call it good.
Like discriminating agaisn gays or anyone else without a just cause.
If a gay business refused to serve you due to your immoral beliefs or life style, you would be the first to scream foul.
Regards
DL

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Message 100 of 424 (767081)
08-25-2015 9:02 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Faith
08-25-2015 8:42 PM


Faith
How stupid.
Where in the law does it say you cannot call it a sin?
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DL

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Message 111 of 424 (767160)
08-26-2015 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Faith
08-25-2015 9:08 PM


Faith
"But the same is not true if I say the Bible calls homosexuality a sin and makes gay marriage a violation of God's marriage ordinance."
Two questions come to mind here.
If God wanted us to deny gays the right to seek loving life mates, and if that is cruel and anti-love, which it is, why did God create gays in the first place?
As to God's marriage ordinance. He would have created the divorce ordinance at the same time as the marriage one. Do you find that divorce ordinance moral and just and exactly what is it?
I ask because better than 50% of Christian marriages end in divorce so it seems that Christians have rejected God's marriage and divorce ordinances.
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DL

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Message 112 of 424 (767161)
08-26-2015 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Coyote
08-25-2015 9:22 PM


Re: Theology...
Coyote
In a sense you are correct but in a Gnostic Christian sense, you are wrong.
Said of Gnostic Christian versus Christian bible reading practices.
Both read the Bible day and night; but you read black where I read white.
William Blake.
I would take this further and advise you to read any scriptures from as many POV as is within you. Question everything including yourself.
The bible, if read as a book of wisdom, does have much wisdom though.
You just have to read it the way Gnostics do and revers a lot of the Christian morals.
Christians call evil good while Gnostic Christians call evil, evil.
I E. Gnostic Christians think that bible God, the demiurge to us, is quite immoral for thinking that torturing King David's baby for 6 days before finally killing it is good justice. Gnostic Christians think that evil while Christians think that a good form of justice.
Which group do you think is right?
Regards
DL

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Message 113 of 424 (767163)
08-26-2015 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by ringo
08-26-2015 12:00 PM


ringo
Altruistic acts can go only the one way. Love takes 2.
You cannot love alone.
You will know those you love and who love you by what you do for each other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS7X3Xolq-I
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DL

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Message 114 of 424 (767165)
08-26-2015 2:23 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Faith
08-26-2015 12:38 PM


Faith
??
When a prophet speaks, he speaks to all.
Regards
DL

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Message 115 of 424 (767166)
08-26-2015 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by ringo
08-26-2015 12:42 PM


ringo
Seems that most individuals are not taking their responsibilities to heart if you are correct. Then again, we live in oligarchies and not democracies.
If we did individually take responsibility for the state then the state would not allow what we presently have.
9 out of 10 Americans are completely wrong about this mind-blowing fact. - Upworthy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQYA9Qjsi0
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DL

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Message 116 of 424 (767167)
08-26-2015 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by Faith
08-26-2015 1:20 PM


Faith
Do you know what Gandhi said of an eye for an eye and do you agree with him?
"An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind."
If not, why not?
Do you know why he would have thought that an eye for an eye was not justice?
Regards
DL

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Message 118 of 424 (767169)
08-26-2015 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by Coyote
08-26-2015 2:37 PM


Re: Theology...
Coyote
I was looking for your moral view.
Do you see Yahweh as a good God or an evil one?
Regards
DL

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Message 122 of 424 (767175)
08-26-2015 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 120 by Faith
08-26-2015 2:58 PM


Faith
You do not seem aware that eye for an eye is a metaphor that means that like should be returned for like.
Ghandi did not agree and neither did Jesus.
So why are you not agreeing with both Jesus and Ghandi?
If you do think that that saying is to be taken literally instead of as a metaphor, how would you deal with rape?
Would you find a gay man to rape the man that raped you for instance?
Regards
DL

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Message 123 of 424 (767176)
08-26-2015 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by Coyote
08-26-2015 3:02 PM


Re: Theology...
Coyote
That did not answer my question.
Seems you like to quote your God as much as a bible thumper. The least you could do is quote an appropriate answer.
Regards
DL

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Message 125 of 424 (767181)
08-26-2015 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Faith
08-26-2015 3:42 PM


Faith
Yet God is supposed to return and put his law in place here.
Jesus did not preach an eye for an eye and that has already been explained to you by ringo.
You are quite cavalier with your poorly thought out answers.
But let me continue to educate you of your own theology.
Romans 12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Does that saying say that perfect justice is an eye for an eye?
I ask again. If you are raped, should we find a big gay man to rape your assailant?
If not, what penalty would you demand?
Regards
DL

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Message 128 of 424 (767187)
08-26-2015 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by Faith
08-26-2015 4:23 PM


Faith
What you do not understand is that an eye for an eye is not perfect for either a good theology or a good philosophy.
It is garbage to either individuals or groups be they religious or secular.
The murderer is not born a murderer. He is a product of all around him that have contributed to what he is and thus any culpability should be divided and that makes an eye for an eye overkill as it ignores all who have made him what he is.
You, like your homophobic and misogynistic religion, have satanic morals and have no conception of what Jesus was actually trying to teach you.
Regards
DL

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Message 131 of 424 (767191)
08-26-2015 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by Faith
08-26-2015 7:19 PM


Faith
Yes I know.
You ignore a lot of scriptures to maintain your hate.
You have also given up your humanity.
I am done with you here.
Regards
DL

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