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Author Topic:   With a dying white race, why are we not encouraging more white births?
Omnivorous
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Message 140 of 237 (774792)
12-22-2015 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Greatest I am
12-10-2015 8:52 PM


GIA writes:
It seems to me, if I was a politician, my war cry, if you will, would be for my white constituents to pull up their socks, pull off their birth control devices, and do their duty to the white race by reproducing more. While at the same time, I would tax those who do not contribute babies that much more than those who do reproduce and basically transfer those funds to help those who are producing babies in a more generous way so as to encourage those parents to have and be able to afford more babies.
That raises questions.
Would only white folks be subject to the failure-to-reproduce tax? Or would all races have to contribute to promoting white babies? How white do they have to be--would an "octaroon's" worth of non-white ancestry be okay, or do we need several generations of documented purity?
Most human genetic variation is found within populations, not between them. Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to find some way to bleach babies?

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence

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Omnivorous
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Message 160 of 237 (774955)
12-25-2015 3:42 PM
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12-25-2015 1:05 PM


GIA writes:
Our government should actively insure that all of it's citizens, regardless of color, are aware of the benefits to the country that their reproducing will bring.
Best, I think, if government stays out of the reproductive lives of citizens altogether.
States have sterilized people, denied them access to birth control, forced abortions, banned abortions and forbade some people from reproducing together. States and reproduction don't mix well.
There's a legitimate state interest in insuring that citizens know how babies are made and how they're raised well. Other than that, government should serve the people it's got, not the getting of particular kinds. All political camps should be wary of opening that door.

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Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
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Omnivorous
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Message 166 of 237 (774962)
12-25-2015 5:06 PM
Reply to: Message 162 by Faith
12-25-2015 4:04 PM


Birth rates fall in industrializing countries due to many reasons, including improved infant survival, access to effective birth control and the rural-to-urban movement of populations. The education of women, in particular, closely correlates with falling birth rates.
I don't know anyone who limited family size due to Malthus. Certainly, stagnant incomes have made large families difficult. Economies that necessitate two income households have also inhibited family size.
Most past migrant families in the U.S. were large, a custom which changes over generations: Chinese, Italian, Irish, Dutch, German....
Hasidic Jews and 'Quiver Full' evangelicals have ultra-large families and look to gain political clout from them. The Amish go big--for the farms?--and seem unconcerned about votes.
You worry too much about the oddest things.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
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Omnivorous
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Message 169 of 237 (774966)
12-25-2015 5:31 PM
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12-25-2015 5:16 PM


Well, I guess my working class origins were quasi-white, because nobody gave a damn about overpopulation or had heard of Malthus. You must have moved in rarefied circles of global conscience.
You have noted disparate birth rates with concern previously. I'd say it's fair to call that worry.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence

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Omnivorous
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Message 173 of 237 (774977)
12-25-2015 11:09 PM
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12-25-2015 6:28 PM


Faith writes:
GIA is right that there's a general decline in the population of the "white race" somehow or other.
We aren't riding an expansionary wave of imperialism, true, but I think that's nice.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence

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