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Author Topic:   The best scientific method (Bayesian form of H-D)
MrHambre
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Message 102 of 273 (79459)
01-19-2004 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by crashfrog
01-19-2004 4:16 PM


Now I'm Laughing Too
Stephen bin Joshenya writes:
Yeah, I keep imagining I am addressing an audience that cares about trustworthy authority. I should know better, given the casual, non-professional way evidence is thrown around here.
Crash, I think he means you. And I'll pray for you, man.

The dark nursery of evolution is very dark indeed.
Brad McFall

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MrHambre
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Message 128 of 273 (79804)
01-21-2004 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by Mammuthus
01-21-2004 11:30 AM


H-D This
Stephen yen Bushwah writes:
Have demons been proved to exist? Of course not. If that's what one means by evidence, one is not a scientist. One is a dogmatist.
Mammuthus, you're not being very scientific about Steve-O here. You have to frame an H-D hypothesis like "Stephen Fretwell is a complete raving lunatic," since raving lunacy has low plausibilty. Or is that probability? Oh well.
Then, we have to pray on the hypothesis: Lord, if Stephen Fretwell is a complete raving lunatic, please drop Tera Patrick in my lap right now or in the next ten seconds. The failure of said porn star to appear tells us nothing. Perhaps she fell into someone's lap(which has high probability), or some other female will fall into my lap soon (which has low plausibility). I will accept my four-year-old daughter's sitting on my lap as a verification of the criteria. Our hypothesis has passed the initial test, or test pattern. This does not prove our hypothesis to be true, or valid, or vanilla, but it increases the plausibility of the H-D hypothesis. Stephen Fretwell can be said to be a lunatic of at least some kind (jabbering? frothing?), unless the Bible has failed as our materials and methods manual. The probability of that is low. I mean the possibility, sorry.
It could be, however, that Stephen Fretwell is a raving lunatic, but not a complete raving lunatic. His typing alone is enough to lead us to the conclusion that he is functional in some ways, whereas Brad either uses the shift key too much or dictates his posts to someone who does. When will the completion of Stephen Fretwell's raving lunacy be achieved? Since his mind is open to literally any preposterous notion whatsoever (except evolutionary theory, which evidently depends on not-crackpot-enough evidence), we may predict with low plaus-, probab- or poss-ibilty that it will be very, very soon. We'll ask Jehovah again after lunch.

The dark nursery of evolution is very dark indeed.
Brad McFall

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MrHambre
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Message 241 of 273 (85713)
02-12-2004 8:39 AM
Reply to: Message 239 by Percy
02-12-2004 7:46 AM


Re: Apropos Quote
That's a great quote. Why is it every time I see a picture of William James I feel like calling him Zhimbo?
regards,
Esteban "Varieties of Ridiculous Experience" Hambre

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MrHambre
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Message 255 of 273 (88593)
02-25-2004 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 254 by Percy
02-25-2004 10:53 AM


The Wit and Wisdom of Stephen ben Yeshua
Percy,
I'm pretty sure I know the post to which Mammuthus is making reference. In post #55 in "Religion is Evil", our homie Stephen responded to DC85's claim to agnosticism thus:
"If that is your choice is life, I despise you, hate you."
Eccentric grammar, but a clear message. Stephen obviously believes that God is Love, just the tough kind. He later called atheism a hate-crime against God. To give him credit, though, he did later explain that God told him to leave the abortion clinics alone. However, sinners, the line is still drawn: "Most people, remember, are enemies of God."
In conclusion, I give you these wise words of tolerance and all-encompassing love from Stephen b. Y.:
"Millions do have a different view of God, and their life has little to commend it."
regards,
Esteban "His Master's Voice" Hambre

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MrHambre
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Message 257 of 273 (88601)
02-25-2004 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 256 by Mammuthus
02-25-2004 11:38 AM


Pulling a Philosopher of Science Out of My...Hat
I'm still waiting for Love Guy ben Yeshua to get back to me on the philosophy of science issue he brought up in the Ohio Science Curriculum thread. Speak, O wise one:
quote:
During the great Kansas evolution debate, I went to visit the professor who was the most authoritative philosopher of science I could find on the KU campus. I asked them their opinion about evolution as science, and they said simply that, in their study of philosophy of science, it was a very poor excuse for the discipline, was very unscientific in its approach. I asked them why they had not made this clear in the midst of the debate then raging, and they said that it was pointless, evolutionists were far too deeply subjective in their belief, and would only rage at him. It was not a scientific controversy, they said, just passionate argumentation, with no interest in either side for the truth.
Just in case you wanted to know.
What I wanted to know is whether he really expected anyone else to believe this. Can you measure probability in negative numbers? Is there a Bayesian statistician inna house?
regards,
Esteban "Least Authoritative" Hambre

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