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Author Topic:   Noah's Flood and the Geologic Layers (was Noah's shallow sea)
alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 97 of 219 (85030)
02-10-2004 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by simple
02-10-2004 1:27 AM


Re: real miracles sensibly priced
This is my first post on this web site.Would simple please qoute word for word the part of the bible myth on noah that states how long the were out to sea.Also simple you stated that it was year, the size given would not have had a draft to handle the food supply alone for 2 of every bird animal and reptile on earth plus 7 species extra for sacrificing to god plus 8 humans.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 102 of 219 (85116)
02-10-2004 4:41 PM
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02-10-2004 12:31 PM


Re: real miracles sensibly priced
Sorry my fault.if anyone who believes in the flood would state how long after god created adam did the flood occur ie god created adam 6000 + 5days the flood was 1000 years later wich would put the flood around 3000bc.then I could look at material pertaining to geological layers from that time period and see if there is any evidence to support the flood myth

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 122 of 219 (85377)
02-11-2004 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by johnfolton
02-10-2004 7:47 PM


Re: real miracles sensibly priced
thank you for the information.Simple I have never read the bible before finding this web site(and just in case no im niether a muslim buddist or any of the countless cults on this planet)you claim to have this knowledge but when asked a direct question you neither give the info or admit it is there for anyone to read.Ifound the chapter on begats that whatever mentioned and it is per the words n your book 1586years after adams creation.lts go with the one time I always read about ceation +6000years then the flood was creation+5414 0r 3414 bc.does.So now I will check out what i can.again thank you whatever

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 129 of 219 (85443)
02-11-2004 4:47 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by simple
02-11-2004 3:44 PM


Re: short term answer
simple my ancestors were here before there where any hebrews all i wanted was a date or period of said flood to look up facts on geological layering to support flood myth.since you argue your case with nothing i will not waste my time your lack of proof proves it is a myth

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 130 of 219 (85458)
02-11-2004 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Joe Meert
02-11-2004 3:02 PM


Re: real miracles sensibly priced
sir if im to look properly for any information should i not have all the information that is needed to verify or negate a claim.as i said i had never read the bible before i am a firm believer in evolution. im more na than anything else.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 141 of 219 (85786)
02-12-2004 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by simple
02-11-2004 9:09 PM


Re: all I wanted
to you simple 1)now was that hard you finally pinned down a period,but still you will not show any proof if you went to court this unprepared the judge would dismiss you.show proof 2)im happy and all i have to do to stay that way is to look at my daughters

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 142 of 219 (85791)
02-12-2004 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by simple
02-12-2004 12:22 AM


Re: good old 1-2 punch
so you never lived through a hurricane(i have see i live in florida and we seem to have them hit every so often).im going to leave your super flare to the experts but even i know that that would leave proof.did you think it up yourself or did someone help you.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 162 of 219 (86074)
02-13-2004 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 149 by simple
02-12-2004 3:06 PM


Re: florida tastes a sample
of course it did but does it show any evidence for an effect on the earth to cause water to appear from nowhere(or that god caused it).back to geological layers and proof seeing that you ignored the question on being in a hurricane i will go with you being in a location safely away from any storms from the oceans.hurricane andrew struck south florida in aug 1992 it dropped fom 2.02 to 3.5 inches of rain(information and stats on hurricane andrew can be found at Page Not Found).the effects on the geology by this storm can still be seen today(14yrs 5mths later)your storm to raise the sea level 29036ft(tallest mnt + 18 cubits)it would have to average of roughly 728ft per 24 hour period or a rain fall equal to andrew every 3 to 5 seconds.this would have caused major erosion on at least all mts which we would be able to find in the layers at any point in history from yesterday to millions of years ago.that is 119145 time more than andrew see it is simple look at the numbers try a little math now if your going to post "well god waved his magic wand and made all that water appear... flooded the earth...then waved it again and made all the evidence disapear"make sure you try to explain why an omnipotent being needs to hide evidence of the massacre of 99.9% of all life on alive at that time

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 183 of 219 (86268)
02-14-2004 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 167 by simple
02-13-2004 12:44 PM


Re: don't need to repeat
brought in from WHERE!the same place that the tooth fairy lives.You really cant be this naive.thats over 2 trillion gallons of water.do you understand any concept of size,age over thousands are the numbers millions and billions plus trillion to high for you to comprehend.If your still in school what grade.if your recieving any form of help then you need to ask someone else.
"It is true one would envision large and plentifull hurricanes with so much water,
not one so far you i just pointed out what the storm would have to be for your myth to have any since of reality
"i dont know why you think anyone is suggesting this was suppose to
be a hurricane in there somewhere covering mountains?certainly not my idea!
genisis chapter 7 17-18"for forty days the rain poured down without stopping.and the water became deeper and deeper,until the boat started floating high above the ground.finally the mighty flood was so deep that even the highest MOUNTAIN PEAKS(simple what is the highest mountain on earth)WERE ALMOST 25FT BELOW THE SURFACE
so now i know you either dont read what you argue for,you only believe what fits your belief and even ignore the facts put in your own book,or as i said before someone else is helping you(incidently i never said that a hurricane did it i showed you what the storm would have to be)
"its buried all over the back yard
you have yet to prove it
i think it would be wise to ask why he did it.so we dont have a repeat of such a thing.with the world "filled with violence"
now if that dont beat all he/she/it murders 99.9% of all live on earth but it is our fault?husband to wife"im sorry i hit you dear but it was your fault you made me do it!there is just as much "violence now as then humans kill humans with so much zeal we now call it the art of war. art?and you still say the proof is there then when confronted an shown there is no proof you bring in faeries and magical water that appears and disappearsYoung man you have no proof you seem to not even know what your own book says.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 201 of 219 (86690)
02-16-2004 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by simple
02-14-2004 8:48 PM


Re: nothing new under son
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do i think my post is proof, well its more proof than you have seen fit to show.listen youngster if god could make that much water appear out of nowhere than he could have made it appear on the earth without a storm just poof there,if god could make anything appear then disapppear like that(snap)he would have just made all that he didnt want to survive just go away!now reading your simple thought patterns and also walt paptrap of "how about this or that could of happen"(but showing no proof of said theory),god is an illusionist,god"i flooded the earth put there is no proof proves i did it(and please do not look behind the curtain)" you avoid the issue you know nothing about which is a really good indication of who you are and your level of education(how many errors in math on my part did i leave that you failed to notice ie 1992-20004 is 12yrs thats one)no knowledge of age progression no knowledge of layering.next time why dont you try to use intelligents to proof your idea not what ifs.i did not start by saying the flood never happened i asked for proof.no proof your just a young person trying to sound philisophical and failing at it once again no proof then its still just a myth as far as im concerned this is over you have nothing and you are trying to run everyone who disagrees with you in circles till they give up.news flash that is you losing the debate not people who see a kid who will continue to beat a did horse one last question simple
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Do I think my post is proof? Well, it's more proof than you have seen fit to show. Listen, youngster, if God could make that much water appear out of nowhere than he could have made it appear on the earth without a storm. Just poof, there, if God could make anything appear, then disappear, like that (snap) he would have just made all that he didn't want to survive just go away!
Now, reading your simple thought patterns and also your Walt paptrap of "How about this or that could of happened" (but showing no proof of said theory), God is an illusionist, God "I flooded the earth but there is no proof proves I did it (and please do not look behind the curtain)".
You avoid the issue you know nothing about, which is a really good indication of who you are and your level of education. (How many errors in math on my part did I leave that you failed to notice, ie, 1992-20004 is 12 yrs, that's one.) No knowledge of age progression, no knowledge of layering. Next time why don't you try to use intelligence to prove your idea, not "what ifs". I did not start by saying the flood never happened, I asked for proof. No proof you're just a young person trying to sound philosophical and failing at it. Once again no proof that it's still just a myth. As far as I'm concerned, this is over. You have nothing and you are trying to run everyone who disagrees with you in circles till they give up. News flash that it is you losing the debate, not people who see a kid who will continue to beat a dead horse. One last question, simple.
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alacrity fitzhugh
Member (Idle past 4318 days)
Posts: 194
Joined: 02-10-2004


Message 204 of 219 (86703)
02-16-2004 3:01 PM
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02-16-2004 2:13 PM


Re: Attention Randy!
I humbly understand, this is truly my first chat room.I will try to be more respectful in the layout of the post Im typing.
[Check out the edit to your Message 201. --Admin]
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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 217 of 219 (87044)
02-17-2004 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 210 by simple
02-16-2004 5:35 PM


Re: 2nd try was at least readable
quote:
"So you know him"
Why dont the next time quote the whole statement son.From reading what you said and walt has postulated,I have come to the conclusion(thanks so far to you two)god is an illusionist.
quote:
"true you have no proof im failing,or that Im young
Yes I do your post kid
quote:
"Reveals an intelligence of such superiority that compared with it,all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection"Einstien
Now are you trying to compare yourself to Einstien.That does once again show your age
How about
"As flies to wanton boys,are we to the gods,they kill us for their sport"
or"The greatest tragedy in human history was the the hijacking of morality by religion"
Or "science could disprove religion by simply ignoring it.As far as I'm aware no one has disproven zues or thor and they have very few followers now"All from Arthur C. Clarke(try reading times eye)
Simply show me the proof by not using what ifs our maybe it came from...Facts just the facts is that to hard for you simple. quote
better to be presumptous than ignorant.What is more simple than asking you for proof.Maybe you can not back up yourself with out what ifs!
[Fix quoting. Open quote=[quote], close quote=[/quote]. This isn't rocket science, plus there's a preview button that actually displays your errors in red! --Admin]
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