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Phat
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Message 190 of 219 (86412)
02-15-2004 10:15 AM
Reply to: Message 171 by Loudmouth
02-13-2004 3:18 PM


Re: Geology explained
Loudmouth writes:
I don't take texts written by man as ultimate truth. I look at evidence that no man has control over, such as the rocks. Even if the Bible were God inspired, no one is claiming that God wrote it directly. So you still don't have a book written by God.
I may point out that the issue with the Bible as a valid source of truth and knowledge rests on the source of the wisdom. Here we have two possibilities:
1) Human authors wrote the book. This is certain. The book did not drop as a scroll from the sky. However, as to the source of the authors inspiration, we have two options.
a) Their own minds
b) Divine Inspiration
Actually, to be fair, we could add a third option:
c) Alien wisdom or fallibility, as the case may be.

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Phat
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Message 196 of 219 (86632)
02-16-2004 9:25 AM
Reply to: Message 195 by IrishRockhound
02-16-2004 8:09 AM


Whats up with the Flood?
IrishRockHound has a valid point and assertion when he asks
There are too many unreasonable assumptions in flood 'geology', starting with the cast-iron premise that the flood MUST have happened.
As a believer, I now must ask myself the question of whether the flood actually happened or whether the idea of the meaning behind the flood story is true or not. Since I believe that the Bible contains essential absolute truth, I am naturally concerned with what it says.
I have not yet arrived at any conclusions but here is my thought pattern:
1) Is it possible that the story of the flood is a giant parable? That the truth of the parable is real, while the actual event may be a story?
2) Does God allow rational scientific processes to occur by natural law, or is it possible that He steps in to History and alters the natural laws? If He did that, it would seem as if He were tricking us. This argument has been expressed by others as saying something along the lines of "The Earth is 6000 years old and God made it that way 6000 years ago." I do not know if I believe that.

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Phat
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Message 198 of 219 (86657)
02-16-2004 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 197 by IrishRockhound
02-16-2004 10:15 AM


Re: Whats up with the Flood?
I want to hear from some of you who believe that the flood actually happened. Do you believe it because the Bible said it or do you have another reason?

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