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Phat
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Message 553 of 560 (877377)
06-14-2020 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 529 by Stile
06-05-2020 11:48 AM


A Method To Test The Spirit and spirits
Stile writes:
Here's a specific example of a girl claiming to have sex with ghosts.
That seems a lot more physical than just come "seeing and basic touching."
Does that mean this ghost is more likely to be real than the resurrection?
Here's one experienced by many people - all with "similar stories that only differ on the details"
The Mackenzie Poltergeist
-many, many eye witnesses
-many getting "cuts, bruises and burns" from the poltergeist - again, more than just touching.
Of course you know my belief..or perhaps know of it...I could argue that you never have experienced it and you could argue that my experience is at best subjective and you are attempting to objectively discuss these matters. I respect that and have always respected your methodology and argumentative approach.
I personally believe that there is one Holy Spirit and a plethora of spirits. There is in my opinion a distinct difference.
I looked up your Poltergeist reports and found another one on my own. My Brush With A Ghost As I have discussed before, on this forum, I have believed that I encountered supernatural (or perhaps best described as unexplained evidence of such activity. Anecdotally, I have seen weird church services, but never counted them as subjective proof since I myself never felt directly involved with what I was observing. I will talk more, but I must go to work now. In closing, I do agree with GDR in that the Holy Spirit had a body--Jesus Christ, and none of the spirits come preassembled with a body...they simply seek and need our bodies through which to manifest...though they can manifest in sound and in movement of objects...anecdotally.

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Phat
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Message 554 of 560 (877378)
06-14-2020 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 552 by ringo
06-14-2020 2:20 PM


Re: It is about sacrificial love
And I disagree. You dont get to determine validity except perhaps tentatively until more evidence is found. Your argument is no better than mine. Its one mans word against anthers. Unless of course the forum dismisses my personal experience as invalid. I suppose you all could do that, though its not cricket.
ringo writes:
Without evidence, the default is that it doesn't exist.
Im not sure why we have that rule and would challenge it on the Faith & Belief side of the Forum. Evidence is only the default in the Science side of the Forum.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.Calvin Coolidge
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

- You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
Anne Lamott
I Have Strong Arguments Which I Cant Say To You~CG

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