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Message 59 of 100 (641685)
11-21-2011 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Phat
11-20-2011 8:53 PM


Re: For The Record
Everyone who has been at this forum for a number of years knew, or at least suspected that you were gay, Rrhain.
I never "knew."
I never suspected.
I never gave the matter a moment's thought.
Now that you've suggested the possibility, I conclude that his sexuality makes not a whit's worth of difference to me or to anything he's ever said here and I can't fathom a reason why I should care.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 61 of 100 (641689)
11-21-2011 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by New Cat's Eye
11-21-2011 3:58 PM


Its not about the positions you defend, but *how* you defend positions in general.
It seems to me that he defends positions by asking hard questions of people and then doggedly insisting that they answer those questions rather than letting them change the subject or ignore the points he's raised. That doesn't seem particularly "faggy" to me. Of course, since you seem to be using the term "faggy" in a way that has nothing to do with sexuality, cigarettes or starting a fire, I guess I haven't a clue what you mean.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 63 of 100 (641692)
11-21-2011 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by New Cat's Eye
11-21-2011 4:14 PM


He spins your position into a more ridiculous one
Perhaps sometimes.
Sometimes that simply called making a reductio ad absurdum argument. Sometimes that's simply showing the ridiculousness that isn't always readily apparent in a position at first blush.
"An annoying meddler".
Hmmmm, never heard that use of "faggy" before. You know, it sounds to me like you just threw out the first pejorative you could think of, one that was on your mind because of the thread topic, and didn't bother to think of some other term that might accurately convey the message you were trying to get across.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 65 of 100 (641696)
11-21-2011 4:42 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by New Cat's Eye
11-21-2011 4:31 PM


Yeah, I get that. The problem is when reducing the argument into absurdity takes priority over actually understanding what the person is saying.
That's a danger. But at the same time, sometimes that's necessary to try to get the person to actually see the absurdity in their position. I'm sure you'll agree that we get more than our fair share of numbskulls with stupid ideas that they haven't fully thought out.
I stole it from Mod:
And it appears that he got it from onifre. So my original point still stands, but it's perhaps more aptly directed to him.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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