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Author Topic:   Points on abortion and the crutch of supporters
Asgara
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Message 54 of 440 (93000)
03-17-2004 6:31 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Trump won
03-17-2004 6:20 PM


Chris, the issues comes down to the fact that you haven't proven that a fetus or embryo is a full human with human rights, and you haven't proven that abortion is murder. You have nothing in your corner except your religious convictions that life begins at conception. Why does your conviction trump mine that life begins at viability, or Shraf's, or the Christian next door that is pro-choice, or the SCOTUS.
No one is forcing you to support abortions, or telling your future wife or daughter to have one. Hopefully, you will practice abstinence until marriage and will only have sex with your future wife when you are committed to raising the possible consequence, because I don't wish this choice on anyone.

Asgara
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Asgara
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Message 69 of 440 (93148)
03-18-2004 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Trump won
03-18-2004 7:34 AM


Chris you really haven't answered any of my questions. Why does your conviction trump mine? What is a person?
And yes, I get your message that the fetus MIGHT become a baby, but so might each sperm that is lost to masturbation and so might each egg flushed with a mentrual period. Potentiality is not a guarantee.

Asgara
"Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it"

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Asgara
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Message 94 of 440 (93985)
03-22-2004 9:05 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Trump won
03-22-2004 8:44 PM


Chris, I have a GREAT respect for life but that doesn't change the fact that I also have a GREAT respect for a woman's right to choose.
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Why does your conviction trump mine?
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uhhh? It doesn't. Right?
Then you are agreeing that it's the woman's choice? It's her convictions that matter and no one else's?
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What is a person?
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Why would a doctor perform an abortion on something that isn't going to become a baby? What would be the need of that procedure?
The removal of tissue from a woman's uterus isn't always called an abortion and it isn't always performed on something that MIGHT become a baby.

Asgara
"Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it"

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Asgara
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Message 188 of 440 (106068)
05-06-2004 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 186 by gene90
05-06-2004 8:20 PM


Hi Gene,
I'm just wondering what experience you have of either pregnancy or abortion. I ask this as someone who has had two children, a miscarriage and an abortion. I personally think that those that have no experience have no basis for an opinion.

Asgara
"Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it"

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Asgara
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Message 237 of 440 (106447)
05-07-2004 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 236 by coffee_addict
05-07-2004 7:29 PM


Re: Exactly
Lam...quit trying to make your dating pool larger. It only makes mine smaller.

Asgara
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Asgara
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Message 325 of 440 (140546)
09-06-2004 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 324 by RAZD
09-06-2004 10:57 PM


Re: something new
As someone who's physically been on all sides of the pregnancy/no pregnancy issue..you get a POTM from me.

Asgara
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