Conversion to atheism

Zawinful It is imperative that people be allowed free choice on the issue of whether to believe or not based on those very people adjusting what they need to in order to accomodate new knowledge of things formerly assigned as being the work of god{s}.It is sometimes difficult in dealing with people who honestly feel that they ae somehow failing in their trying to convince you of "the way".I find it less of a concern for myself as an atheist since there is no thing I am trying to convert people to as a matter of "saving" them in some way.It is an consequence of atheism that we cannot even say we will have the last laugh since by our understanding death is the end,and as such no means exist by which we can say "I told you you were wasting your time" as though such a childish taunt was somehow a trophy to flaunt at others.I do,however,take umbrage at sloppy thinking and most especially my own. Life is for learning and I have been the recipient of many wonderful experiences and have been fortunate to see the growth of human beings in positive ways and I do sincerely think that we have improved in many ways.What I think is that the world is suffering from growing pains and the changing of much that humans have taken for granted throughout history.What will be the telling feature of our survival will be the realization that any actions we take in dealing with other nations and people cannot be divorced from ourselves.

TheLiteralist If the facts persuade a person to give up on their beliefs then perhaps the thing they believed in lacks an essential convincing ingredient.You are free to show where the science breaks down but only if you can.So far no one has been succesful.That the materialistic explanation shows evidence and nothing else does speaks volumes to the validity of this view.Perhaps the reason non materialistic arguements fail is because they simply do not exist except within our imagination.Such is the reason for faith as a support for these views since nature is silent on such matters.If you have a problem with nature and her ways perhaps you need to talk it out with her.Good luck.