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Author Topic:   Death of a Scotsman (Re: the "no true Scotsman" fallacy)
NosyNed
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Message 132 of 210 (288492)
02-20-2006 12:12 AM
Reply to: Message 130 by SuperNintendo Chalmers
02-19-2006 9:23 PM


The no true human fallacy
The hitler example only shows that evil can be done by christians or those who profess to be christians. It also shows that chrisianity can be used as a tool for evil. It does not mean that Christianity is inherently evil.
I remember from about 30 years ago a TV interview with Albert Speer (the architect of the third reich). He was reasonable calm in discussing his involment at the upper reaches of the NAZI hierarchy until near the end. The interviewer commented on his amazement at seeing movies of Hitler playing with a dog and children about how this "monster" appeared so normal.
Speer became rather adgitated and said (to the affect) "No, no you must not think that. He was *not* a monster! He was a human being like you and I. We all have within us the capability to do those things. If we think he was somehow special and not human we forget to be on guard."
This was one of two powerful lessons I took away from the interview.
Speer was warning against the no-true human fallacy as Jar is trying to warn Christians against the "no true Chistian" one.

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NosyNed
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Message 136 of 210 (288516)
02-20-2006 1:43 AM
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02-20-2006 12:44 AM


The other message
It shows how anyone can get caught up in something without realizing what is really happening.
That is the REALLY important message to learn from him and his life.

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NosyNed
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Message 137 of 210 (288517)
02-20-2006 1:47 AM
Reply to: Message 134 by Hangdawg13
02-20-2006 12:46 AM


Re: The no true human fallacy
but a new creation not subject to those beastly hitleresque activites has taken its place.
And if you think that then you are in the same terrible danger that Speer was trying to warn against. There is not magic shield against it; it is still there. Just those who most believe they are the ones who have slain the beast are those that we must most fear.
Jar has been trying to warn against this; you demonstrate why the danger is as great as ever. It is up to you. It is up to you alone to be on guard. I repeat "alone"; using whatever means you think will work, perhaps, but it is not a responsibility you get to pass to others (be they human or otherwise).

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NosyNed
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Message 197 of 210 (292330)
03-05-2006 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 196 by mike the wiz
03-05-2006 10:21 AM


Excellent Mike
Good job, Mike. I'll have to POTM later as I'm rushing.

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