The bible and abortion

I never understood how people could take comments written by old Jewish men and state emphatically that it means that god is against abortion. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Jews believe life began literally at first breath? If I did remember this correctly, then even the guys writing the bible didn't believe that anything they wrote was anti-abortion.As for the NT, for a practice that was as common as it was in ancient times, Jesus sure is silent about it.------------------
Asgara
"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato

Messenjah,What is your justification that a fetus in the womb is a human being? The bible doesn't say so. The vast majority of abortions performed in this country are done before the brain is even connected in any meaningful way. The writers of the bible didn't even consider a fetus to be human until first breath.I have heard many Christians claim that all sins are equal in the eyes of god. But I never hear them crying about someone swearing or dishonoring their mother or father. Somehow this knee-jerk reaction is only to their perception of murder of an unborn being.You do know, don't you that even pro-choice advocates hate abortion. Everyone would be happier if abortions didn't happen. But as long as unwanted or unhealthy pregnancies occur, the mother is the only one who can make the decision to carry that fetus to term or not.------------------
Asgara
"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato

I'm not attempting to burn you Messenjah. I am merely questioning you on your post. You did post that "correct" it is murder...and that Holmes' post made you want to cry. I am just wondering what your reasoning was for this.------------------
Asgara
"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato

Hi Yaro,I too, have known women who use abortion as a wicked form of birth control...a few, multiple times.I do believe that for the vast majority of women, the moral implications are always uppermost in their minds.My biggest problem with the whole issue though, is sanctimonious people who have no idea what the woman was going through when she made the decision. People who have no problem calling the woman a murderer and telling her that she will go to hell. People who are totally unwilling to even listen to any explanations or reasons. People who hide behind this facade of Christianity but are unable to justify their position with the verses they are using.edited to add: I am sorry if I come off strident. This issue hits close to home and sometimes I am unaware if I am coming off as harsh. Please let me know if I push it.------------------
Asgara
"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato[This message has been edited by Asgara, 09-22-2003]

The beginning of recognizable brain waves, the mechanisms in place for the perception of pain, viability outside the womb...all these happen around the end of the 2nd trimester/beginning of the 3rd trimester. I don't think anyone here is arguing for the right to abort at this stage. Prior to this it can only be left up to the moral/ethical belief system of the mother.------------------
Asgara
"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato