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Author Topic:   separation of church and state - a christian perspective please.
nator
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Message 27 of 64 (222311)
07-07-2005 8:08 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Tal
07-06-2005 1:09 PM


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Ok, what impact does a government have on an individuals way of life? Quite a bit.
I was under that impression that the Founders wanted as little government intrusion into people's lives as possible, and that is specifically why they recognised and included in the Consitution measures to keep religion out of government and to allow the free exercise of religion among the citizenry.
They saw the difficulties and corruption and hypocrisy of the goverment they came from in which there was a state religion that all lawmakers had to be a member of and they made a radical departure from that.

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nator
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Message 28 of 64 (222312)
07-07-2005 8:13 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Phat
07-06-2005 2:03 PM


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The conservatives want judges who will not interpret the law but, rather, uphold it.
It is nothing more than spin to say that conservatives want judges who will "uphold the law, not interpret it".
It is impossible to NOT interpret the law. Indeed, if we didn't need to interpret the law, we wouldn't need any judges at all.
Conservatives want judges who will interpret the law in the way they want them to.
Phatboy, you really have to stop just swallowing everything you read and hear from the conservative Christian propaganda machine.
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nator
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Message 29 of 64 (222315)
07-07-2005 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Tal
07-06-2005 2:33 PM


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Ok, tell me how the commandments being presented at the front of a courthouse is congress making a law respecting the establishment of a religion and the FREE EXERCISE THEREOF.
A courthouse is a public building. That means that all of us own it.
Nobody has the right to use a publicly funded and maintained facility to promote a particular religion.
Would you have been OK with a display of the tenets of Satanism at the courthouse? Or Wicca?

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