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Modulous
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Message 225 of 305 (226121)
07-25-2005 6:34 AM
Reply to: Message 221 by Faith
07-25-2005 5:13 AM


Re: Bogus distinction: tabloid v broadsheet, US v UK
I'll let others discuss the tabloid/POTM issue. However, this leaped out at me:
However, that's arguable because of the lumping together of all religion when it's ONLY Islam that has produced terrorism,
I think you might have forgotten about a certain group of Irish Catholics, or perhaps Irgun, the Jewish terrorists? Islam is not alone, I'm afraid.

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Modulous
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Message 262 of 305 (226191)
07-25-2005 11:11 AM


Good old wiki
Seems definitions are a little thin on the ground.
Wiki writes:
Equality, social justice, democracy, gender equality, civil rights, labor rights and trade unionism, governmental and social concern for the poor, working-class solidarity, secularism, tolerance, and internationalism are the values typically associated with the left wing of the political spectrum...is against social hierarchy and authority over moral behavior, strict adherence to tradition, monoculturalism, privilege for the wealthy, and other values commonly associated with the political right. Those on the left are sometimes self-described "progressive", a term that arose from their self-identification as the side of (social) progress.
I would say that the BBC is left on the basis of 'equality', 'social justice', 'democracy', 'gender equality', 'civil rights', 'governmental and social concern for the poor', and 'tolerance'. There is probably good reason for this - their public is left of centre. It's a little more involved than that of course, but the point is we see articles written about the above issues a lot because that is what we, as a country, are interested in. Does this feed back on itself? I'm sure it does, partially.
The people of Britain don't generally cheer when a big business buys another big business, forcing 100 smaller business to sell up, making the uber business even bigger. These things are reported, however the fears of the nation and the workers are often addressed, how will this affect the consumer, how will it impact on the competition, 'Outsourced to India' will be discussed. These things are reported because these are the things we want to know.
Evidence that BBC is left wing
I wouldn't go so far as 'very' left wing. And I fail to see how reporting on left of centre topics in a mostly central manner is a massive problem. This seems to be fairly balanced. As is this Notice things such as "Israel is 'hampering' the vote", is followed directly afterwards with "But the Israelis say they have eased the curbs, and that a number of temporary roadblocks have been removed."
Is this far left bias? Surely if it was really Biased, it would have omitted what the Israeli's had done.
Re: Jenin
BBC reports on Amnesty International's reaction (left)
Arab press Centre (shows both sides, Arab and Israelli)
Palestinian's report Left
Military expert objects Centre/right (Says that a military expert reckons military experts should be involved in Jenin report since civil servants aren't able...however he does say that war crimes took place)
And finally...abortion
This message has been edited by Modulous, Mon, 25-July-2005 04:19 PM

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