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Topic: wheat grass... any science to this fad?
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 2 of 101 (297564)
03-23-2006 11:35 AM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Silent H 03-23-2006 10:23 AM
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One unusual claim was that it contains a lot of clorophyll and since that is so close to hemoglobin it helps the body replenish red blood cells easier ROFL! Chlorophyll is sort of a closeish cousin to heme - both are porphyrins, which are small molecules. Hemoglobin is a largish protein that is bound to four heme molecules. Chlorophyll carries magnesium, and heme iron. I'd say that "unusual" is a charitable word to use for that claim.....and unless the drink is opaque dark green it doesn't have enough chlorophyll in it to notice, anyway. And every time I hear "rids the body of toxins" I hear ducks talking their native tongue.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Orally ingested enzymes are digested in the stomach and have no enzymatic activity in the eater. There's the paydirt right there. Lots of quackery gets hidden behind the fact that our bodies cannot, in general, take up whole enzymes or any other proteins. Pure speculation: chlorophyll taken along with iron, like the 1936 study Brenna cites, might really do some good. My very strong hunch, based on chemistry, is that iron would displace magnesium and get tied up with the chlorophyll "framework." Once there, I can easily imagine that it would be more readily absorbed by the intestines. It doesn't say what form of iron the study used, but it is apparently true that not every dosage form is readily available to our digestive systems.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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but grass which we don't eat and can't digest? Well, it's the cellulose (and little chunks of silica) in grass that humans can't digest, and those components aren't likely to be in an extract. But I'll agree that a bit of clarity from the folks pushing this stuff as "nutritional" would be a Good Thing. What vitamins? What nutrients? I'll bet that V-8 tastes a lot better, too. With or without vodka.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 22 of 101 (297660)
03-23-2006 8:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 20 by crashfrog 03-23-2006 8:04 PM
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Re: thanks
How do I season a skillet? How much should I pay? Clean it real well (up to placing it directly on a campfire until any non-iron stuff burns off), put a thick film of cooking oil in it, bake at 225 or so for several hours and optionally let it sit in the oven for a day or two thereafter. Never put in a dishwasher or soak in dishwater. Pay $5 if the second-hand store absolutely insists.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 87 of 101 (529985)
10-11-2009 2:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 86 by jaredjb 10-11-2009 1:05 PM
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Re: Wheatgrass and Science
Hi, jaredib! Welcome to EvC! I went to your page, and things did not start off too well. The first bullet point there says
Because the chlorophyll molecule is nearly identical to the hemoglobin molecule.... This is laughably wrong. Chlorophyll refers to one of several pigments with a molecular weight of around 900 daltons; hemoglobin is a protein with a molecular weight of 75 times that. Hemoglobin does incorporate heme, a family of iron-containing pigments that are "cousins" to chlorophyll, but the two are not at all "nearly identical." Heme B, for example, has a molecular weight of 616. And I'll bet that Bermuda grass would have a very similar set of analytical results to those the Kiwi company gives for wheatgrass. Heck, rice stems may give you all that and will provide a lot more silica! Edited by Coragyps, : tpyo....
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 90 of 101 (530009)
10-11-2009 6:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 88 by jaredjb 10-11-2009 5:05 PM
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Re: Wheatgrass and Science
There's nothing there to set wheatgrass apart from a thousand other potential sources of vitamin A, or vitamin C, or of selenium. The analysis from New Zealand reports "data better that assertion. Edited by Coragyps, : addition
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 91 of 101 (530011)
10-11-2009 6:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 89 by Buzsaw 10-11-2009 6:13 PM
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Re: Ann Wigmore Institute
Hey, Buzz! Does Ann have any double-blind studies on "curing cancer"? She has a published policy:
Upon arrival, you will be asked to sign a disclaimer that releases AWI from any responsibility for any health conditions you experience, pre-existing or otherwise. You must be able to care for yourself.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 97 of 101 (530285)
10-12-2009 9:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 96 by Buzsaw 10-12-2009 8:41 PM
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Re: Ann Wigmore Institute
I'm sure wheatgrass can be cheaper if you avoid going to "schools" in Puerto Rico to learn how to drink tea made from straw. But cowshit is cheaper yet, is frequently made from wheatgrass, and has as much evidence for its efficacy in healing disease as wheatgrass does.
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