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Author Topic:   why DID we evolve into humans?
Dr_Tazimus_maximus
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Message 8 of 231 (44120)
06-25-2003 9:01 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by tomwillrep
06-22-2003 9:45 AM


You have got to be kidding me!!
I have not seen some of this dren in a while.
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when i ask why we evolved into humans- the answer that it is from natural selection cannot be true - as that would suggest that humans were already alive at the time - humans being stronger and able to survive in that environment and so they survived.
This is absolute bull. What it would mean is that there was a species which had some characteristics that are part of modern humans, and some characteristics which are not found in modern humans (modern humans will also possess certian characteristics not found in the earlier species). The same for the earlier species that humans came from, et. That is why it is called evolution, the system (hominid in this case) changes.
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to say humans came from natural selection cannot be true - as they would have needed to be alongside other animals and needed to be the only species to survive in that environment that they were in.
Also untrue, I think that here you are confusing animals that live in a certian environment with animals which occupy a certian niche within that environment. And guess what, there were multiple early hominid species (I am including later australeopithicines with early homo in this) of which only one group had survivors, US. Hey, that is just what you said would happen if humans evolved by natural selection, guess that you agree with our camp now .
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if humans "evolved" that suggests that apes/chimps or whatever animal it is nowadays that we came from, changed its features and somehow produced features that it knew nothing of and was not in need of (otherwise monkeys would not be around today). why did the monkeys become humans if they are perfectly capable of living as they are?
Actually we are more closely related to apes than monkeys (a chimp is a ape, or primate as most prefer). And the species split, some became "monkeys, ie the great apes; and some became hominids. They split into different niches: demes and memes.
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also - if we so wanted to do so many things that we can't in our natural state- why did we not just evolve them-such as wings to fly, gills to stay under water longer.
what exactly is it about the largely random nature of mutations that you do not understand. You sound like a Lamarckian, but then you know that they are also evolutionists, don't you?
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"Chance favors the prepared mind." L. Pasteur
Taz

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