Spiritual Death is Not Biblical

Permit me to step in here and offer something.THe Bible DOES teach spiritual death and that is the kind of death that Adam and Eve experienced on the day they sinned. On that day they sinned against God and God separated them from the garden of Eden and from His visible presence in the world. Separation from God is death; spiritual death.Paul in Romans 5:12 "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned"And.. "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." Paul in I Corinthians 15:22.The New Testament agrees with Moses that death began with Adam. But it could be said that Adam BEGAN to die in the physical sense on the day he disobeyed God. But when God's Spirit left them they died spiritually.The matter of spiritual death is proven in Ephesians and Colossians by Paul:Colossians 2:13 "And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses".Ephesians 2:1 "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins."Ephesians 2:5 "Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ".So it is clear that all who are born into this world, while born physically alive are spiritually dead...as inherited from Adam & Eve. Those who accept Christ by God's grace are given spiritual life and peace.Romans 8:6 "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace."Best wishes to all. [thumb=200]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/Martyrs5/christ_on_cross_th.jpg[/thumb=200]

Where does he use the word 'figurative'?If Jesus came to die on the cross to give us 'life'...was that 'life' figurative? No. It was eternal/spiritual life. That means that those of us who believe are saved from 'death'. Death is separation from God."We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death." I John 3:14.This passing from death unto life happens when a person gives his heart to the Lord and accepts Christ as Savior. "He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life." I John 5:12.A person who does not 'have life' is dead; but obviously it is not talking about physical life of the body, but spiritual life. A person who does not know the Lord personally is spiritually dead.This gives understanding of what Jesus told his disciples, "Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God." 9:60.Spiritual death exists, unfortunately.Edited by Calypsis4, : corrections

Thank you for your question:"The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined." Isaiah 9:2.Jesus fulfilled this prophecy according to Matthew who said,13 "And leaving Nazareth, he came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is upon the sea coast, in the borders of Zabulon and Nephthalim:14 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,15 The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles;16 The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up." Chapter 4 verse 13-16.Jesus was that light (& life) that brought those who were 'dead' unto spiritual life. That life He brought was eternal.Furthermore, spiritual death is found in the words of Solomon:"For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD." Proverbs 8:35.Those who have yet to 'find life' are spiritually dead.I hope this makes sense to you.

No, it isn't. It matches the doctrinal teaching I posted earlier from the New Testament.But even if that were so, God's poetic expressions are eternal truths. The truth that is mentioned there is the deliverance from death unto life. That is what Jesus brought. First eternal life and delievernce from hell...then the resurrection of the body and deliverance from physical death...that will be given all in the appointed day to come. Proverbs is not a tale praising wisdom. It is not tale at all. They are spiritual maxims for all generations and applicable for every day living.The reason you don't understand these things is perhaps you have never been born again of the Spirit. You might really consider that possibility.

The Holy Spirit says otherwise. But the language was plain enough.Learn this lesson: never declare a direct statement of fact as 'figurative' unless there is very good reason to do so.Isaiah was speaking of those who were living in spiritual death and Christ came to give them life. Nothing could be plainer than that. Not only so but Matthew recorded the fact that Jesus fulfilled what Isaiah said he would do...literally."That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,15 The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles;16 The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.."Now, Zabulon, the land of Nephthalim, Jordan, and Galilee ARE ALL real, literal places. Jesus, being the Light of the world came among those who lived in those places and had no light and brought them life; life from death.You are picking and choosing what you will and won't accept as literal/historical based on your prejudices, not on fact.Without realizing it, your insistence upon the text being 'figurative' renders it useless. If the language of "The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death" is not darkness and death in substance (reality) then what, pray tell does it mean?Your interpretation is in error. God told the truth. On the day that Adam sinned in the garden of Eden he died. First his spirit died and his body began to die. God does not lie. 'Let God be true and every man a liar.'"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." Jesus in John 5:24.The Lord Jesus Christ, being co-Creator with the Father did not lie about this and neither did His word lie about Adam and his sin. That sin brought him death on the day he committed it. The death God spoke of concerning Adam is the kind of death Jesus mentioned above. I didn't say anything about hidden meanings as it concerns Proverbs. Proverbs is neither a tale nor a story. It is a philosophy of life and the Lord expects His people to live by those proverbs that Solomon wrote because He inspired him to write them.You aren't telling the truth.