Is Jesus God?

can you explain how?Because i only worship Jehovah. I dont worship Jesus, i dont pray to Jesus, i dont pray to mary or any of the saints... I recognize only one true God....last time i checked, that is monotheism.

that might be true if John 1:1 didnt actually say that Jesus was 'A' god and not 'THE' God.There are plenty of other bible translations beside ours which shows that Jesus is 'A' god.This does not result in worshiping many gods (polytheism) lolWho was God speaking to in genesis when he said "Let US make man in OUR image"Obviously he was speaking to his Son Jesus. The one who has been with him from before the time that Abraham lived.

Jaywill, you really need to compare your bible with different translations. Did you know the septuagint uses the word 'created'? Here are how other translators render the verse (i love biblegateway) What i've just been looking for is the use of the word possessed. This word is translated from the Latin so i think the translators who use this word are translating from a latin manuscript, whereas the translators who use the word created or produced may be using the septuagint.And remember, the septuagint translators were hebrew & greek speaking jews. They knew how to interpret hebrew into greek. The Hebrew word is qa.na'ni and it means to produce, to create or make. As you can see from the above translations, these are the words they used. thats exactly right and its for this reason that wisdom is not what was being spoken about in Prov 8.I noticed the Amplified bible uses the word wisdom.
22The Lord formed and brought me [Wisdom] forth at the beginning of His way, before His acts of old. 23 I [Wisdom] was inaugurated and ordained from everlasting, from the beginning, before ever the earth existed.They then use a cross reference to John 1:1 indicating that this 'wisdom' is actually Jesus. So i guess they also view Prov 8 as refering to Jesus. But it doesnt make a lot of sense using the word 'wisdom' because that confuses the issue unless readers actually use the cross references.Anyway, Prov 8 shows that Jesus was with Jehovah, that Jesus was a created being and that is why he is called Gods Only Begotten Son. Edited by Peg, : No reason given.

im sorry but i think your 'author' needs to have his head checked.They are two different words entirely. The exodus I AM is a title, while the 'I am' in John is translated as 'I am he' in many other verses that John wrote.If you accept this guys word for it, then so be it. We shoud move onto a new subject.

What makes you think the 'rule' granville sharpe invented is even accurate?How do you know that he didnt look at that one verse and invent a rule that simply made the verse say what he wanted it to say?If the rule was legitimate, then im sure other translators would be using it. ok , this just makes his rule even more dubious then it already is. "Proofs of the Divinity of Christ" is a sure giveaway that the is trying to prove the trinity. he's simply created a rule which is biased to his own theology. No wonder others dont use it.If he's a trinitarian then i am 100% not convinced that his rule is legitimate. Edited by Peg, : No reason given.

well even the bible teaches that there are many gods.... its not the teaching that makes for polytheism, its the worship of those gods that makes polytheism.Paul acknowledges two Gods here....The Father and Jesus. Jaywill, i hate to break it to you, but this scitpure you've used shows us two, not one. "You, the only true God AND HIM whom you have sent, Jesus Christ"

EMA, from your quote, i can show with just one scripture...jesus own words....how they are wrong.they say
The difference is that JW's define Jesus as a lessor class of being, and we, defining the two occurrences of God identically, as an equal class of being! Our position is irrefutably solid and the only consistent one. What did Jesus say about himself? So how consistent are they really? They claim Jesus is equal with God, yet Jesus showed that he was not equal....he did not even have the same knowledge of God concerning the time when God would act.the trinity debate has raged for centuries and it will continue to rage because the teaching that Jesus is God has no basis in scripture. Never did and never will. I wonder what they think about these scholars and translators who disagree with them? Now, im no scholar, and i certainly dont have to be a scholar to understand what these scholars are saying about John 1:1. They do not agree with your source and I can assure you that they are not JW's. We simply ensure that our knowledge is in line with the facts. In this case, the facts about John 1:1 do not make Jesus The God Almighty. It makes him a god, a divine being like the myriads of other divine beings called angels...but it certainly doesnt make him God Almighty.

just as they are taught to believe in the easter bunny and santa clause no doubt.

God may be a fantasy to you perhaps, but to many people he is not.So even if those parents are wrong, they are not deliberately telling their kids a falsehood...unlike christmas and easter which are just blatent lies parents tell, correct?

or evolution.

according to evolutionists, surethe rest of us arn't so easily fooled.

Paul was speaking to christians in his time, the first century. So Paul specifies that there is only one God they worship. So when you ask me if I am part of the 'US' I assume you are refering to the christians whom Paul taught, yes?Yet the trinity God that you know of was not taught by Paul or any of the other christians in his time. So I can 100% answer yes to your question. I worship the only true and ONE God Jehovah. The God of the OT who was never spoken of as a triune god.
The only triune gods were hear about in the OT are the gods of Egypt.

We are talking about the trinity teaching though...something that Paul did not teach. You used Pauls words to back up your argument about acceptiing the trinity teaching...but Paul never taught such a teaching as the catholic encycolpedia explained.In fact the teaching didnt come from any of the apostles and you know it. jw's have come to their understanding through studying many sources...including the catholic encylopedia. You can learn a lot about what is and what is not in there.When they even admit themselves that the trinity teaching is not from the apostles, so tell me why anyone should be inclined to respect it as an apostolic teaching??? Its not a bible teaching, its a false knowledge that the apostles warned christians about. 1Timothy 6:20"O Timothy, guard what is laid up in trust with you, turning away from the empty speeches that violate what is holy and from the contradictions of the falsely called knowledge. 21For making a show of such [knowledge] some have deviated from the faith." Edited by Peg, : No reason given.

Osiris, Isis, and their son Horus you can claim that if you wish.I didnt need JW's to tell me that the apostles never taught the trinity doctrine...i can see it for myself in the catholic encyclopedia.So tell me, if the trinity teaching didnt come from Paul or any of the other apostles, Who's word are you really learning from?

Read Jesus words carefully. They asked him if he was the Christ/Messiah...they didnt ask him if he was God. And Jesus admitted to being the Christ. Jesus then went on to say that the Christ is a SON of God. This is why they accused him of blasphemy...its because they didnt understand that the Christ was going to be a heavenly being. They beleived the christ was to be a man and a man only.... but Jesus words indicated that he was of a divine nature...this is what they objected to. So he never said he was God Almighty, he claimed to be a SON of God...to them this meant he was a heavenly being...a godlike one... a spirit from heaven but nowhere do we read that they believed he was calling himself God Almighty. im sorry that you dont like my disagreement with your teachings. If you'd prefer this debate to finish then i'm happy to end it here. I dont think there is much more we could discuss in terms of the trinity anyway.We've seen that there are numerous sources who disagree with the rendering of certain verses and we've seen that the catholic enyclopedia admit that the apostles did not teach the idea of the trinity. Its their own admission that really clinches the deal for me... no amount of twisting scriptures will convince me that its what the apostles meant in their writings.