Professional Debate: Scientific Evidence for/against Evolution… “Any Takers?”

They are. I was contemplating writing my own reply, but I think nwr has captured my own response sufficiently. You would do well to remember that EvC is home to far more than its fair share of professionals, and please remember the important difference between experts and "experts".

It was advice that always served my students well, certainly for some well-below-par textbooks. Probably the same ones that confuse power and heat... Out - I am a theoretical physicist and there are many better qualified and experienced than I to explain evolutionary theory. But if you should want to arrange a similar debate on cosmological issues, let me know.

Oh dear god, this is painful. Power is the rate of heat transfer, not the quantity of heat. 10,000 KWhr is a quantity of heat, IT IS NOT POWER. 10,000 KWhr could be supplied at a power of 10 Watts, in which case it would take 1,000,000 hours to supply, or it could be supplied at a power of 1 Tera Watt, in which case it would take 40 milliseconds to transfer.I have a 3KW electric heater in my room. How hot does it make my room? Can you spot the missing variable required in order to answer the question?Power is not heat, is not like heat, cannot be thought of as heat.To confuse the two is to fail high-school physics.

If you had said Reactive Power (I2X in kilo-VARs) is not heat, is not like heat, cannot be thought of as heat, then you would have been correct.

Yes, I would.

Unfortunately, you were talking about Real Power (I2R in kilo-Watts).

Yes, I was - and no unfortunately.

Perhaps you haven’t considered the equations as they apply in the real world cavediver.

Oh for fuck's sake, are all engineers this fucking stupid? help me out here...

Heat equals Real power multiplied by time

Yep, there you go - heat (energy) is power x time. Ergo, heat is NOT power. They have different fucking dimensions. How the fuck in "the real world" can they be the same if they have different fucking dimensions?I've got this horrible, horrible feeling that you are going to play the most stupid hand possible, by next setting time to equal 1 in whatever units you happen to be choosing, and declaring that "see, they are the same".Please, please, please tell me you are not going to be that fucking stupid... please.

Assume time is 1 second.

Ah, there you go...Did you know that velocity and distance are also the same thing when you take time to be 1 second. It's incredible...What I love is that you are totally failing to see this. And yet you obviously have "some" knowledge of eletrical engineering. It is so fucking scary to think that people with this screwed up understanding are actually out there thinking that they are "experts". And thinking that they can teach scientists how it really is "in the real world".

In truth cavediver, Real Power is always directly manifest into Heat anywhere in the known physical universe as long as time is a continuous uncontrollable dimension.

What? "in truth"??? It's complete bollocks is what it is. Your sentence makes no fucking sense. What do you think radio and microwave transmitters transmit? Heat?

Real power can be viewed as heat and is viewed as heat every day

Only by those that do not understand the difference between a variable and the rate of change of a variable.

Some folks have book learning and others are just plain ole’ average country folks who must apply the physics in the real world.

No, you just have no fucking clue. And for the record, I had my first soldering iron at age 9. And my rather successful business bizarrely started with my ability to fix switch mode power supplies. I like to cover all bases, from down-to-earth practical to the hardest elements of theory. I wouldn't want to end up looking stupid talking about this, now would I?Edited by cavediver, : No reason given.Edited by cavediver, : No reason given.