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Dexx
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Message 40 of 51 (573902)
08-13-2010 1:57 AM


I would be very interested to see a list of phenomena. Here is a list of what qualifies:
- It must be an event/effect that can be reproduced in a laboratory OR
- It must be an event/effect that can be observed by anyone possessing necessary equipment. Equipment that is fully defined and reproducable.
- The effect/event must have no strong scientific theory explaining it. Guesswork and theories with no evidence are allowable. In fact the effect/event could even blatantly contradict some known physical mechanism.
Here's one example; in the earliest days of powered flight, some stated that the bumble bee should not be able to fly. Of course since then science has worked out how this little insect manages it. But for a time, it was a phenomena.

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Dexx
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Message 46 of 51 (574151)
08-14-2010 11:17 AM
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08-13-2010 6:48 PM


Thats just it, i'm hoping that "phenomena" is actually completely objective. ie anyone can observe it or reproduce it. This differs greatly from the subjective or testamonial phenomena that spiritual people often attest to.
Sure the term is defined as simply an observable event. However, if something has a hard scientific explanation, then where's the mystery? Similarly something that isnt fully explained but that has a very likely explanation doesnt sound very phenomenal.
As an example, in 1957 when Sony discovered the electron tunneling effect which was later used in tunnel diodes, they were at a loss to explain the effect. Only later did quantum mechanics explain the phenomena. Are there other such things which are observable today but as yet unexplained?

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