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how exactly does Israel stabilize the Middle East and why do we need Israel?

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Message 24 of 108 (572106)
08-03-2010 7:02 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by jar
08-03-2010 9:31 AM

how exactly does Israel stabilize the Middle East
It does keep the middle east in a steady state of hostilities.
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I guess that's consistent with one meaning of "stabilize".
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Re: Does the world need Israel?
Phat writes:
If the US stopped supplying Israel and if Israel were actually forced back to her pre 1967 borders, it would not foster peace any more than there is now, in my estimation.
There are very few options available to Israel. The main options that I see are:
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1: Return to something approximating the pre-1967 borders;
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2: Continue its current expansionism, become more and more brutal in its oppression of Arabs, and eventually become such a pariah state that even USA will find it difficult to support them.
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3: Continue its current expansionism, but remain democratic. In a few years time, the Arab majority will win a national election and then, for all practical purposes, Israel will be no more.
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08-05-2010 7:43 AM 		Reply to: Message 47 by Taq
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Taq writes:
Is the US view towards Israel heavily influenced by the idea that a Muslim controlled Israel would prevent christians from visiting holy sites?
No, I don't think that's a serious concern.
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The bigger issue is that many evangelical Christians believe in a totally absurd fantasy about a future end of the world, and that fantasy is centered in Jerusalem.
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Re: World End?
Buzsaw writes:
You've got that wrong NWR.
You say that I have it wrong. But then you go on to describe your fantasy, and that pretty much confirms what I had said.
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