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subbie
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Message 58 of 112 (585216)
10-06-2010 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by jaywill
10-06-2010 3:58 PM


More condescending arrogance
Yes, that's right. The only problem is that you never get to tell us about the wonderful things in bible. Obviously, since we don't believe, we simply haven't heard it yet. All you need to do is start a thread about the "exceedingly positive" things in the bible and we'll all fall into lock step behind you, marching off to war with the cross of Jesus going on before.
Has it ever occurred to you that we in fact have heard it all and simply find it unconvincing? I for one will acknowledge absolutely that there are some wonderful things in the bible. Were it not so, it wouldn't be so widely accepted. But some positive things things that can also be found in many other religions and non-religious systems of ethics are hardly sufficient to convince us of the value of the rest of the nonsense.
In any event, by all means, share your "exceedingly positive" things from the bible. I daresay most of us will agree there are "exceedingly positive" things in the bible. But be prepared to explain why we can't simply take the "exceedingly positive" things to heart and ignore the rest. For example, the crap you shovel about gay marriage.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 65 of 112 (585232)
10-06-2010 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by jaywill
10-06-2010 5:39 PM


I don't understand
I know some of these words sound strange to you.
No, the words themselves are fine. It's the order in which you choose to put them that's giving me trouble. Sorry, but that's a bunch of incomprehensible word salad to me. Can you put it in English?
There is one bit in there that I understood:
Whatever you are, I am pretty sure that if you stand by faith on the facts that you have been crucified with Christ, buried with Christ, and raised with Christ, you will be brought into a more truly joyful existence.
Sorry, but there's nothing "exceedingly positive" to me about needing to believe in a being for which there is no objective evidence before you can be happy. The idea that that may actually be true saddens me profoundly. And the idea that anyone would call such a being a loving father sickens me.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 70 of 112 (585246)
10-06-2010 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Omnivorous
10-06-2010 9:31 PM


Ominvorous writes:
Reading the Bible through turned me away from my church as a pre-teen.
Mrs. Fenty: You should read the Bible, Mr. Rumson.
Ben Rumson: I have read the Bible, Mrs. Fenty.
Mrs. Fenty: Didn't that discourage you about drinking?
Ben Rumson: No, but it sure killed my appetite for readin'!
-Paint Your Wagon

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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subbie
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Message 89 of 112 (585374)
10-07-2010 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by jaywill
10-07-2010 4:34 PM


Demonstrating more nonsense
So when I hear a lot of athiests try to scold God it seems that they do so from the vantage point of having ingested so much Judeo/ Christian ethical philosophy to begin with.
Atheists don't scold gods, because we don't believe in gods.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 91 of 112 (585377)
10-07-2010 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Rahvin
10-07-2010 6:42 PM


Re: Demonstrating more nonsense
Perhaps jaywill gives a leprechaun a good spanking each night for being part of pagan mythology?
I doubt it. He doesn't strike me as being particularly Toppish.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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