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crashfrog
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Message 20 of 60 (582064)
09-19-2010 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Buzsaw
09-18-2010 8:20 AM


Why have we wasted the braking energy in automobiles, for example, for over a century?
Because gas is cheap. In a world where gas is expensive, regenerative braking technology makes a lot more sense, and automakers invest the time and resources needed to prototype alternative means of storing energy and recovering a car's momentum instead of turning it into heat.
In a world where gas is cheap it doesn't make any sense to bother. It's cheaper to spend the gas than to design the system. Of course, advance a plan to stimulate the development of these technologies via gas tax that makes gas reliably expensive, and it's all "tax hikes on the poor!" and "global warming is a hoax!" mostly from your side of the aisle, Buz.

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crashfrog
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Message 21 of 60 (582065)
09-19-2010 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Buzsaw
09-18-2010 3:17 PM


How about a relatively large coiled steel spring (abe: /and or tortion bar) in the center region of the vehicle which winds some with application of brakes until the max is reached, energizing a release so as to unwind with subsequent acceleration, both conserving brakes and energy?
The gas needed to push that extra weight around would more than swamp whatever gas you saved by regenerating momentum after braking.

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crashfrog
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Message 59 of 60 (584607)
10-02-2010 9:38 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Buzsaw
10-02-2010 9:13 PM


Re: Re Perhaps Too Extreme
You're underestimating the amount of energy you would gain when you factor all of the braking you do.
You don't gain any energy at all, you just expend less gas from a traffic stop - theoretically. But the elastic mass adds weight to the vehicle, weight that you have to push around all the time when you're not using it.
Think of a clock. Manpower winds the little spring in the movement and runs the clock, in some cases eight days and others as 31 days.
Are you aware of any clocks that have 2000-pound hands?
Physics, Buz. It's a real thing, honest.

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