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Author Topic:   My HUGE problem with creationist thinking (re: Which version of creationism)
Panda
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Message 8 of 336 (619159)
06-08-2011 9:33 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Taz
06-08-2011 8:57 PM


Taz writes:

Are you kidding me? The United States of America was founded by Christians as a Christian nation. It has always been a Christian nation and it will always be a Christian nation (until the rapture, of course). Since Christianity is the one true religion in the world and all other religions are false, of course the Christian version of Creation should be taught as scientific fact because it is scientific fact, Amen.


Acalepha might appreciate this link:
Poe's Law

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Panda
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Message 57 of 336 (619636)
06-10-2011 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Acalepha
06-09-2011 2:12 PM


Re: Hi Panda
Acalepha writes:

Well put.


Since you didn't bother reading my post, I will respond in kind.

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Panda
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Message 63 of 336 (619672)
06-11-2011 6:43 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by Buzsaw
06-10-2011 8:10 PM


Re: Who Observed What?
Buzsaw writes:

Acalepha writes:


Hi All!

The theory of evolution is based entirely on empirical observation.

Hi Acadelphia. Welcome! You mean like alleged observation of the process of emerging primordial soup into the simplest life thingy which through a gazillion intricate natural non-intelligent processes to intelligent complex humans, etc, disorder and chaos, all the way to the order and complexity observed today? Who observed all of this?

Who observed the BB singularity event, having no space to have existed, no time into which have happened and no outside of in which to have expanded? Who has observed all of those multi verses.


Really?
REALLY?!?

After all this time on this forum, you still think that the Theory of Evolution explains:
a) How life began
and
b) How the universe began.

Jesus Christ on a bike!
Do you find it that hard to learn?


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Panda
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Message 72 of 336 (619688)
06-11-2011 8:41 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by Chuck77
06-11-2011 7:09 AM


Re: Who Observed What?
Chuck77 writes:

Panda writes:

After all this time on this forum, you still think that the Theory of Evolution explains:
a) How life began
and
b) How the universe began.

Jesus Christ on a bike!
Do you find it that hard to learn?

Panda, can you LEARN how to seperate paragraphs? His first paragraph is dealing with TOE. THAT is evolution he is talking about. I believe his SECOND paragraph is about the "Big bang". I know it's so easy to always say Evolution and Abiogenesis are seperate when you evo's don't have an answer for something but how very convienient! Yes, your not at all concerned where life came from we know, evolution ONLY deals with existing life. Well that's dandy.


I will quote Son Message 67 (as he answered this, but you chose to ignore it).
Son writes:

The first paragraph is about Abiogenesis, not TOE. Abiogenesis and TOE are separate the same way your birth and your life are separate. We don't need to know everything (or anything about your birth) in order to know what you ate this morning.


(The emphasis is mine.)

Buz has been on this forum for years and has been told this more times than I care to remember.

Here's a task for you:
Go and find a scientific web-site that has a definition of the ToE that includes an explanation of 'first life' (or abiogenesis, as scientists call it).
Go on.
I dare you.

p.s.
If his 2nd paragraph is not related to the ToE then it is simply a pointless 'rabbit hole'.


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Message 77 of 336 (619706)
06-11-2011 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by Buzsaw
06-11-2011 9:14 AM


Re: Who Observed What?
Buzsaw writes:

Son, click on my Buzsaw profile to see that Buzsaw has understood the alleged scientific claims of abiogenesis and ToE. I am fully aware of them. Chuck was right. One of the functions of paragraphs is to separate points posted. BB and ToE pertain to points posted.


So you admit that both points were just 'rabbit holes'.

"If you are unable to answer the question: change the question."
You appear to have a penchant for dishonest debating techniques.


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Message 86 of 336 (619858)
06-12-2011 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by RightHandMan
06-12-2011 7:12 PM


Re: When will beavers make the next hoover dam?
RightHandMan writes:

So can you evolutionist tell me when the beavers will make the next hoover dam? What a billion years? How about never!!! Or do you think the wood they eat will make them able? What in their environment will make their intelligence match ours? The talking trees?


"How about never!!!" - correct.
The beavers are Democrats, so they will not build a Hoover Dam.

Oh...and I would seek help if the trees are talking to you.

{abe}

RightHandMan writes:

There is a reason Jesus is called the Lord of Lords...


Why is he called the Lord of Lords?
Why is he not also called the Lord of Queens and the Lord of Princesses?

Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

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Panda
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Message 88 of 336 (619862)
06-12-2011 7:37 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by RightHandMan
06-12-2011 7:33 PM


Re: When will beavers make the next hoover dam?
RightHandMan writes:

If you would like to know God HE IS Here! All you have to do is say YES! Simple as that!


YES!

*taps foot waiting...*

*looks at watch...*


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Panda
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Message 117 of 336 (620605)
06-18-2011 9:46 AM
Reply to: Message 116 by Percy
06-18-2011 7:28 AM


Re: Who Observed What?
Percy writes:

The militant atheists have to recognize that belief in things that aren't there is never going to go away - it's part of what makes us human.

I nearly replied in detail to the highlighted bit of your reply.

I think it looks like a good discussion topic...


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Message 163 of 336 (637408)
10-15-2011 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 162 by IamJoseph
10-15-2011 10:18 AM


Re: YAWN
IamJ writes:

It is thereby not possible to have 'TWO' infinite entities


How many even integers are there?
How many odd integers are there?

IamJ writes:

I KNOW YOUR GREAT GRAND PARENTS - THEY BECAME OLD THEN DIED AWAY - BUT I HAVE NOT CHANGED.


I know from experience that when you capitalise your scripture it means you are making it up.

Edited by Panda, : No reason given.


If I were you
And I wish that I were you
All the things I'd do
To make myself turn blue

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