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Rahvin
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Message 15 of 35 (677365)
10-29-2012 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by crashfrog
10-29-2012 10:44 AM


Re: Windows 8?
Oh, quite the contrary. I'm here to tell you that gamers aren't touching this with a ten-foot pole. It's a 5-10% performance hit with no upside. We're sticking with Win 7 Ultimate, thank you very much.
Im having flashbacks from Vista...
I plan to continue using Win7 for gaming. For just about everything else I run a Linux virtual machine. I have no intention of migrating to Win8 unless and until there is a compelling reason to do so for gaming...and currently the reverse is true.

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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Rahvin
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Message 18 of 35 (677368)
10-29-2012 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by hooah212002
10-29-2012 12:27 PM


Re: Windows 8?
Can you imagine a touchscreen for a desktop?
That would be a pain in the ass. No way am I reaching up to my monitor when I have a nice, ergonomic mouse in a comfortable position.
Touchscreens are perfect for tablets and phones. Not so much for desktops, unless you start creating new peripherals - like a touchscreen keyboard and mousepad. And at that point I cant tell what the benefit would be in turning my desktop into the equivalent of a Nintendo DS.

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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Rahvin
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Message 20 of 35 (677434)
10-29-2012 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by hooah212002
10-29-2012 4:20 PM


Re: Windows 8?
I was aware that they already exist.
I'm also aware that sales are, shall we say, low. For the same reasons I mentioned.
I understand that MS is trying to use a single OS for both touch devices and more traditional PCs and notebooks, as opposed to Apple's tactic of using two separate operating systems.
I'd even be on board with that, if it was all we're talking about - I would love to have access to the same app repository on my desktop that I have on my phone/tablet and vice versa, so that I can seamlessly use the same apps across platforms. Not everything needs or would even work well with a touchscreen, but that's not important if you're not forced to do so.
Unfortunately Win8 comes with a harsh performance hit, and because we're still looking at the initial launch, there are virtually no apps (as compared to the Apple store or the Google Play store) in the repository. Additionally, it's unclear to me whether MS will be taking the harsh level of control over their app repository that Apple currently uses, or if they'll leave software installation basically open, as does Google with Android.
Time will tell. But as it is...Win8 is looking to me like a repeat of Vista.

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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Message 26 of 35 (677447)
10-29-2012 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Omnivorous
10-29-2012 6:41 PM


Re: Windows 8?
I demand a synaptic interface!
READ MY MIND, EXPLORER.EXE!

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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