Off Topic Posts aka Rabbit Trail Thread - Mostly YEC Geology

From some random guy on the internet in defense of Geocentrism:

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I see you; how you have cut out a niche here in the den of the prideful. Sadly I have answered you and you cannot see and hear. If you could even consider you may be wrong; that the word of God is magnified above all, that the literalness you seek to understand evades you because you have set a parameter that is taught by the precepts of man, therefore you drag your sin behind you, it so easily besets you. Repent, know you that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.

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Why would you bother arguing or discussing science with anyone who thinks like this? Like Faith, these people believe that their inability to defend their nonsense against scientific inquiry and to yet maintain their justly ridiculed beliefs is a point of pride. They did not accept the Faustian bargain, and so they are assured a place in heaven.Faith considers the name calling and her inability to formulate reasonable arguments as simply bearing her Cross. Something akin to being Jeanne d'Arc without being one of those effing Catholics. Being here is a lark during which she tests her faith under fire. She will not even learn which arguments not to use.

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"Often a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other parts of the world, about the motions and orbits of the stars and even their sizes and distances,... and this knowledge he holds with certainty from reason and experience. It is thus offensive and disgraceful for an unbeliever to hear a Christian talk nonsense about such things, claiming that what he is saying is based in Scripture. We should do all that we can to avoid such an embarrassing situation, lest the unbeliever see only ignorance in the Christian and laugh to scorn"

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The above is either a warning to the foolish or a recipe for disaster for the even more foolish Christian.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

What if God does not micro-manage everything?

This is the kind of post I like to nominate, but I'm going to avoid annoying the Moose by doing that. Instead I'll just provide my own translation from Faith-speak:"I copied off of my buddy's paper, whom I knowing nothing deemed to be smart. Yet we both got F's! How is that fair?"ABE:Seriously, isn't ripping into 'Creation Science' as found on sites like AIG's and CMI a favorite past time of most of the posters here. Why would an old timer expect that posting stuff that agrees with those guys would earn respect? Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Edited by NoNukes, : Added by edit.

An excellent observation. I would also add that Faith appears to be poorly positioned to be able to understand the evidence for an old universe or for evolution. She is exactly the audience that CMI and AIG intend to target with Creation Science. That stuff isn't suppose to actually convince geologists, paleontologists, or astronomers; Creation Science is for those who don't have any personal stake in the scientific method. She has nothing to gain from accepting reality. We should not expect under those circumstances that a Bible hyper-literalist would moderate their interpretation of the Bible.In Faith's defense, I'll also note that after a fit of tossing out jeers, Faith has apparently gone back and retracted at least the majority if not all of the jeers she applied in her fit of frustration.Not going to comment on AGW. That discussion would be a trip down a rabbit hole even further off of the rabbit trail we're already on.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.