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Author Topic:   Evolution. We Have The Fossils. We Win.
jar
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Message 2037 of 2887 (831489)
04-19-2018 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 2036 by dwise1
04-19-2018 9:45 AM


Re: The Imaginary Fossil Order is a false interpretation
dwise1 writes:
Has anybody here ever seen a plant run?
You never lived in the South. Kudzu runs and climbs and jumps and is damn fast too.

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jar
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Message 2046 of 2887 (831556)
04-20-2018 6:13 PM
Reply to: Message 2045 by Percy
04-20-2018 6:09 PM


Re: The Imaginary Fossil Order is a false interpretation
Your chart is yet another great example showing that particular rock layers often extend across several time periods and that there is a whole variety of rock types within any given time period.

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jar
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Message 2049 of 2887 (831560)
04-20-2018 8:29 PM
Reply to: Message 2047 by Faith
04-20-2018 7:50 PM


Re: The Imaginary Fossil Order is a false interpretation
Faith writes:
Someday maybe one of you all will wake up and see the problem here.
Someday you might actually tell us what the problem is and how your imaginary flood sorts the geology, biology, paleontology, archeology, radiometric and isotope samples in the order found in reality.
Faith your constant rants and unsupported claims mean as little as the picayune thing you try to market as god.
We have the geology, the fossils, the societies, the archeology, the radiometric data, the isotope samples and the models, methods, mechanisms, processes and procedures that explain what is found in reality.
You have nothing but the dogma of your Cult.

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jar
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Message 2052 of 2887 (831566)
04-20-2018 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 2051 by Faith
04-20-2018 8:51 PM


Re: The Imaginary Fossil Order is a false interpretation
Faith writes:
It would be better if you figured it out for yourself. there's more than enough information. Oh not you, that isn't going to happen, but others who hang out here might. Not that I'm holding my breath.
Yet for over a decade we have asked you to actually tell us what the problem is and how your imaginary flood sorts the geology, biology, paleontology, archeology, radiometric and isotope samples in the order found in reality and you have never presented anything in the way of models, methods, mechanisms, processes and procedures that explain what is found in reality or any way your imaginary flood could sort things as found in reality.
We have the geology, the fossils, the societies, the archeology, the radiometric data, the isotope samples and the models, methods, mechanisms, processes and procedures that explain what is found in reality.
You have nothing but the dogma of your Cult.
Edited by jar, : add a space between any and way

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jar
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Message 2067 of 2887 (831586)
04-21-2018 6:31 AM
Reply to: Message 2053 by Faith
04-20-2018 10:20 PM


Re: The Imaginary Fossil Order is a false interpretation
Yet the fact remains that we have the fossils, we have the geology, we have the archeology, we have the paleontology, we have the radiometric samples, we have the isotope samples AND we have the models and methods and mechanisms and processes and procedures that explain what exists and is seen and those models and methods and mechanisms and processes and procedures are observed happening today.
You have never presented anything but the dogma of your Cult.

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jar
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Message 2068 of 2887 (831587)
04-21-2018 6:41 AM
Reply to: Message 2060 by Faith
04-21-2018 4:16 AM


Re: The Imaginary Fossil Order is a false interpretation
Faith writes:
Appeared at the Creation???? No, they appeared at the Flood.
Thank you Faith for once again pointing out how utterly silly Creationism, Young Earth and the Biblical Flood really are.
A flood cannot create anything but a mess.
Let me repeat. A flood cannot create anything but a mess.
For a flood to move a whole reef system there must first have been a shallow sea and a long period of time for the corals to grow.
For a flood to move sand there must first have been a mountain and then weathering and erosion to make the sand. That takes millions of years.
The problem is what you market are made up stories written by ignorant people.
What you face though is reality. You are trying to disprove reality and that just ain't gonna happen.

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jar
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Message 2079 of 2887 (831604)
04-21-2018 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 2077 by ringo
04-21-2018 12:44 PM


Honest Creationists abandoned Creationism when faced with reality.
Faith writes:
In fact, it was creationists who had the head start. They had all the time in the world to accumulate evidence but they never bothered to try until after they had been proven wrong.
Actually it was the honest Creationists that gathered all the evidence needed to prove Creationism wrong.

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Message 2101 of 2887 (831634)
04-22-2018 6:51 AM
Reply to: Message 2099 by Faith
04-22-2018 4:24 AM


Re: The Imaginary Fossil Order is a false interpretation
Faith writes:
The Flood made particular kinds of straight flat rocks that cover huge areas. When the Flood ended those kinds of rocks were no longer being made. Gosh you guys can be obtuse.
Yet it is impossible for a flood to lay down the rocks in the order that they exist in reality and you have never presented any model, method, mechanism, process or procedure that would allow a flood to lay down the rocks in the order found in reality.
The Biblical Flood stories in the Bible as simply plot devices made up by the men who created and first told the tales. They never happened.
All you have is the dogma of your Cult and even in the Bible itself that is contradictory and mutually exclusive.

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jar
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Message 2114 of 2887 (831648)
04-22-2018 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 2112 by Faith
04-22-2018 2:58 PM


Re: The Imaginary Fossil Order is a false interpretation
Faith writes:
Interesting. The paradigm problem is more difficult than even I had imagined. Obviously the only way to deal with this is just to ignore the conventional paradigm and elaborate the YEC paradigm. Elsewhere.
Correct. You can only sell the YEC position to the willfully ignorant and dishonest.
Young Earth has no chance among people willing to learn or with even a small amount of honesty.

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jar
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Message 2155 of 2887 (831701)
04-23-2018 6:53 AM
Reply to: Message 2153 by Faith
04-23-2018 5:09 AM


Re: The Imaginary Fossil Order is a false interpretation
Faith writes:
The FACTS, the EVIDENCE, show the Flood, nothing else.
If that were true, if either of the Biblical Flood myths had actually happened, then you or someone in your Cult would have been able to provide the model, method, mechanism, process or procedure that would allow yoour Flud to create what exists in reality.
The truth though is that it is impossible for a flood to create what exists in reality and so for over 200 years YECists and Floodists and anti-evolutionists have simply failed just as you have failed.
YEC & The Biblical Flood and denial of evolution are simply stupid ideas only existing among the utterly dishonest and willfully ignorant.

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jar
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Message 2209 of 2887 (831779)
04-24-2018 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 2198 by Faith
04-24-2018 12:42 PM


Re: Geological Column also known as Stratigraphic Column
Faith writes:
The Geological Column is represented in many actual geographical areas representing actual rock formations representing the Geological Timescale in that area.
Actually, the reality is that the Geological Column is represented in every single actual geographical areas and represents the actual rock formations during each of the Geological Eras. And every single one is different in composition.

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jar
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Message 2210 of 2887 (831780)
04-24-2018 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 2207 by Faith
04-24-2018 1:30 PM


Re: The Imaginary Fossil Order is a false interpretation
Faith writes:
No, the nests were carried there on the water.
And you have never explained how that absurdity is even possible. Or how your imaginary flood transports sand dunes. Or how your imaginary flood transports coral reefs. Or how your imaginary flood deposits iterations of millions of individual layers of finer sediment then coarser sediment.
Nope, all you have is the dogma of your Cult.

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jar
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Message 2214 of 2887 (831784)
04-24-2018 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 2213 by Capt Stormfield
04-24-2018 2:12 PM


Can we expect Faith to get the flood story straight since even the Bible couldn't?
Capt Stormfield writes:
Good story, Faith. Couple loose ends maybe.
Since even the Bible has two different, contradictory and mutually exclusive flood stories is it fair asking Faith to get her story straight?
I can see asking "How did it do dat?" about such utter absurdities and the tracks being critters fleeing from the flood but we can't really expect her to do what the Bible itself could never do like get a single account of the flood that stands up to any examination.

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jar
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Message 2222 of 2887 (831803)
04-24-2018 8:18 PM
Reply to: Message 2219 by Faith
04-24-2018 7:39 PM


Re: Geological Column also known as Stratigraphic Column
Faith writes:
There aren't any layers in any version of the geological column as small as your Red Lake, the layers forming in which are also no doubt not anywhere near as flat either.
And you have been shown that your imaginary layers have as little connection to reality as your flood. The layers are NOT always flat and there are definite signs of erosion between the layers and all you have is nonsense and the dogma of your Cult.

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jar
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From: Texas!!
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Message 2224 of 2887 (831805)
04-24-2018 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 2223 by Faith
04-24-2018 8:23 PM


Re: Geological Column also known as Stratigraphic Column
Faith writes:
I never said the layers were ALWAYS flat, I've said they were all ORIGINALLY flat and there's plenty of evidence of layers that are still flat.
Yes, you have made that claim many times and it is still simply not true.

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