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14174dm
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Message 494 of 960 (803353)
03-29-2017 10:29 AM
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03-28-2017 8:00 PM


Re: ...
In the case of Christianity yes it does.
Why? Where in the Constitution & Amendments does it say that? Where is Christianity called out for unique treatment not given to other religions?
Remember, the Constitution was written at a time when specific Christian sects were afforded special legal and financial consideration by individual states. If the writers had wanted to provide specific federal protection, why didn't they?

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14174dm
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Message 499 of 960 (803362)
03-29-2017 11:41 AM
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03-29-2017 10:46 AM


Re: The First Amendment was a response to Christian privilege and meant to limit them.
State churches existed in most colonies to one degree or another. This included tax support of churches & ministers (with court enforcement of payment) and even compulsory attendance. Enforcement likely varied widely.
Separation of church and state in the United States - Wikipedia
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14174dm
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Message 507 of 960 (803370)
03-29-2017 1:17 PM
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03-29-2017 12:26 PM


Re: The First Amendment was a response to Christian privilege and meant to limit them.
Yes the dominant culture was based on Christianity. So it acted through the legal system to protect itself and suppress others.
Note that a couple colonies/states only allowed Protestants to hold office. I guess Catholics aren't true Christians and can be oppressed by the Protestants.
What about Jews, Native Americans, African native religions, etc.? Native Americans were already here and enslaved Africans had no choice. Why would it be acceptable to force them to pay for & attend Christian services?
The First Amendment was a conscious effort to protect the citizens from having a religion imposed upon them by those using the power of the government. That is why official public school prayers are banned while voluntary prayer led by students on school grounds is permitted.

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14174dm
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Message 520 of 960 (803391)
03-29-2017 4:05 PM
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03-29-2017 2:54 PM


Re: First Amendment
somehow miraculously endured without any First Amendment-based gripes
You do realize that Catholics complained about schools using the Protestant KJV in 1890. I think Mormons were complaining around then too. My understanding is that the Catholic school system was a reaction to the Protestant controlled schools forcing Protestant practices on Catholic kids.
Engel v Vitale was a Jew complaining about his son forced into Christian prayer before Murray's case. That case stopped the NY State sanctioned prayer.
I don't understand why so many Christians are trying to force the schools and other public institutions to do their job in raising Christian children. Do you really want someone not of your choosing to pick the prayers and readings? What happens when a Hindu or Muslim teacher or principal takes over?

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14174dm
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Message 540 of 960 (803440)
03-30-2017 3:37 PM
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03-29-2017 5:38 PM


Re: First Amendment
... Satan is the author of all the other religions, over which demons have installed themselves as gods.
So is it acceptable for a Christian to bake a wedding cake for a ceremony where demons are blessing the couple?

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