a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer. ( sometimes initial capital letter ) one of a former group of professional robbers and murderers in India who strangled their victims.
I'm not going to nitpick semantic definitions with you, this was the first online definition I googled, but criminality is definitely assumed in the name. Maybe you didn't notice, but the other point I made in my question to him was he also physically seems to not have the tough guy look about him either
But my purpose was not to criticize him, I was just trying to understand what he was thinking when he selected the name.
That's fine, I accept your definition. I was just giving my impression.
I actually meant to say that I SOMETIMES think Phat isn't even a Christian. He says some bizarrely anti-Christian things for a Christian. Most of the time he's convinced me he's saved anyway, which I guess is possible even if your doctrine is wacko.
Tis not I sir. I never would say some shit like that. I was pointing out to Faith that her statement condemning anyone with a open mind is a "Non Christian". Because ya know you can not have a open mind and still believe in her nonsense. And we all know she is the ultimate authority on who is a Christian and who is not. *sarcasm* Oh and she is also the ultimate authority on just about every topic she has ever posted on.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
Tis not I sir. I never would say some shit like that.
Yeah, my bad. I thought I was responding to Faith. Imagine Faith's predicament of being so mind-blowingly judgemental that even Phat/Thugpreacha is on the knife edge of eternal torture, yet so immensely clueless you can't recognize how judgy you are. Kinda sad.
I was pointing out to Faith that her statement condemning anyone with a open mind is a "Non Christian". Because ya know you can not have a open mind and still believe in her nonsense. And we all know she is the ultimate authority on who is a Christian and who is not. *sarcasm* Oh and she is also the ultimate authority …
O fer pete's sake. The reason you can't have an open mind about the principles of Christian faith is that it is based on scripture, on God's own revelation to us, God's word. Where the revelation is ambiguous we may have speculations and disagreements but overall it is God's revelation and you don't argue with God. We also of course can have an open mind about absolutely any other subject whatever.
This is basic stuff. GOD IS THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY, not I and not anyone else. There are however at least hundreds of thousands who agree with me about this.
There is nothing wrong with being judgmental, in fact Christians are charged with correctly judging all manner of things; we are told we will judge angels. The only judgmentalness the Bible condemns is about people's sins and I leave people's sins alone. Jesus died for our sins. But doctrine we are supposed to judge and judge carefully. At EvC this becomes problematic because there are all sorts including unbelievers who think THEY are the ultimate authority on things Christian.
There is nothing wrong with being judgmental, in fact Christians are charged with correctly judging all manner of things; we are told we will judge angels.
You have this narcissistic tendency of grabbing every thread by the balls and somehow making it all about you. This isn't about you; this is about Phat, and I'm looking forward to hearing from him. If, meanwhile, you want me to pretend with you that you will one day judge giant, winged, invisible fairies I'll play along...but those of us living in reality sadly judge your "child-playing make-believe" mindset.
But doctrine we are supposed to judge and judge carefully.
quote:Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
So, away with the commentators and centuries of tradition. Read what Christ said.
quote:Matthew 7:16-19 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
And the fruits are?
quote:Galatians 5:22-23 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
You're a perfect example of one who thinks you know it all and gets it all wrong. Theology is ALL based on Christ, and if anyone is muddled by worldly philosophy it's you and Thugsy.
I'm sure you have no clue that the "know them by their fruits" passage refers to the burgeoning Roman Church which had fruits such as no meat on Fridays and relics to be adored and condemning marriage of clergy, which has led to the horrors of sexual molestation of children, not to mention all the sexual liaisons supposedly condemned by the church that went on in the monasteries. All of their superstitions lead to bad fruits, and all are against God's word.\\