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Message 61 of 90 (912056)
08-11-2023 10:31 AM 		Reply to: Message 60 by Phat
08-11-2023 4:38 AM

Facts only please
There are 300 million professing Christians in China.
Source please.
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Message 64 of 90 (912060)
08-11-2023 1:28 PM 		Reply to: Message 62 by Phat
08-11-2023 1:06 PM

Re: Facts only please
So you tried to pull a fast one. Again.
No it is not a hard statistic to nail down. Even if there are 10's of millions more it is not 300 million.
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2010: the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life estimated over 67 million Christians in China,[104] of which 35 million "independent" Protestants, 23 million Three-Self Protestants, 9 million Catholics and 20,000 Orthodox Christians.
Christianity in China - Wikipedia
There is your 10's of millions.
I had heard the 300 million figure
From where? What was your source?
and didnt bother to verify it,
No shit. You never do.
but I do suspect that Christians do in fact choose not to publicly
What you suspect is irrelevant.
So I will retract the 300 million figure in deference to your "facts" mantra, but you have a warped view of reality anyway.
Disinformation is more reputable than facts? I am the warped one?
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Everything else is irrelevant to my post.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 72 of 90 (912087)
08-13-2023 11:46 AM 		Reply to: Message 69 by Phat
08-13-2023 8:26 AM

Re: War, warlords, Christianity, and Humanism
Christians are ideally NOT Warlords, correct? Have they been? Are any of them?
You really should do research before you speak.
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​The UN Security council has everyone at the table.
Few are at the table. Are you truly this ignorant of everything you hate and attack?
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Will we (as in we the people of the planet) do anything better in negotiations regarding Taiwan?
Do you have a plan? A solution?
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 78 of 90 (912099)
08-13-2023 7:38 PM 		Reply to: Message 73 by Phat
08-13-2023 2:37 PM

Re: War, warlords, Christianity, and Humanism
There have been many christian warlords.
The Security Council only has a small number of nations.
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The rest is too stupid to respond to.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 80 of 90 (912105)
08-14-2023 9:43 AM 		Reply to: Message 79 by Phat
08-14-2023 9:06 AM

Re: War, warlords, Christianity, and Humanism
imagine a day when the UN opposes the United States
Happens all the time. Again, research stuff before you expose your ignorance.
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Global consensus does not necessarily equal legitimacy.
So you think the US is the only path to legitimacy?
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 84 of 90 (912348)
08-26-2023 9:57 AM 		Reply to: Message 83 by Phat
08-26-2023 9:50 AM

Re: War, warlords, Christianity, and Humanism
Yet you support christofascists?
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 88 of 90 (912359)
08-26-2023 6:42 PM 		Reply to: Message 87 by Percy
08-26-2023 3:53 PM

Re: War, warlords, Christianity, and Humanism
Phat continues to show his ignorance and hate for those that don't believe as he believes.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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