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Trae
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Message 196 of 232 (128293)
07-28-2004 4:31 AM
Reply to: Message 193 by simple
07-28-2004 1:38 AM


Re: momsy was a tomato?
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Of course there have been extinctions since then. Nevertheless, this explosion of life appeared in our record, and being near creation time is handily explained by a creation model.
First, you have to demonstrate that there was an explosion of life.
Second, you would have to show how/why this is somehow unusual/unexpected.
Lastly, you’d have to show that this is inconsistent with evolution theory. Which I suspect you presume, but which isn’t inconsistent at all.

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Trae
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Message 197 of 232 (128294)
07-28-2004 4:49 AM
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07-26-2004 7:45 PM


Empty promises
The scientific method is little more than what tends to produce the best results in science. If it works it gets added. If it doesn’t work it gets removed. This battle has been fought and your side lost. Faith-based scientific mythologies ruin science. Faith-based scientific mythologies set the discoveries of science back.
If you can come up with a better method, do so. Your ascertains, which we know from history are less productive, aren’t going to convince any scientist to change to some less productive system. If you or creationist have a better system then use it. If your system is really better then it shouldn’t take long for that group to leave the scientific establishment in the dust.

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Trae
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Message 198 of 232 (128296)
07-28-2004 4:55 AM
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07-26-2004 7:45 PM


Re: momsy was a tomato?
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So, if you don't like a split between the spirit world, and the physical, and can disprove it fine. If you can disprove Eden, fine. You can't. So green fairy dragon stuff don't cut it.
We don’t have to disprove it. As you have defined it, Eden isn’t an issue.

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Trae
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Message 199 of 232 (128298)
07-28-2004 5:18 AM
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07-26-2004 7:45 PM


Show us what you have then.
What is listed as fatal problems are only strongmen arguments. If it had fatal problems then it would be dead. The author fails to understand the point of science and theory is usefulness and not truth.
You seem to be saying that science can change and include the supernatural. Since epistemologists have failed to create a system, feel free to come up with one. Remember, it needs to replace the current system and it needs to produce results.
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