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Topic: COSMOLOGY
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PaulK
Member Posts: 17827 Joined: 01-10-2003 Member Rating: 2.3
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Message 151 of 159 (490368)
12-04-2008 1:52 AM
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Reply to: Message 150 by V-Bird 12-03-2008 9:39 PM
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Re: DA.
It's not odd, it's just mathematically wrong. Your -0.0...1 is just a long-winded way of writing 0 - there is no difference in the value represented. I'll add that it is nonsense to suggest that 0 equals any number greater than 0. If your mathematics relies on either, then your mathematics is wrong.
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AdminNosy
Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: 11-11-2003
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Message 152 of 159 (490373)
12-04-2008 2:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 150 by V-Bird 12-03-2008 9:39 PM
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Enough V-Bird
Please do not post to this thread again. Thank you.
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DevilsAdvocate
Member (Idle past 3129 days) Posts: 1548 Joined: 06-05-2008
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Message 153 of 159 (490399)
12-04-2008 7:51 AM
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Reply to: Message 148 by onifre 12-03-2008 4:47 PM
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Re: DA.
onfire writes: Myself writes: This negative "gravity" so to speak is also called negative vacuum energy density. Isn't this called negative pressure...? Which is cased by a large vacuum energy density that existed during the inflationary epoch...?
I guess you could call it negative pressure as well. All describe the process of an outward pull which overpowered the force of gravity causing the universe to "inflate". This outward force is also thought by many scientists to be part of the mystery of dark energy. For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.Dr. Carl Sagan
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DevilsAdvocate
Member (Idle past 3129 days) Posts: 1548 Joined: 06-05-2008
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Message 154 of 159 (490403)
12-04-2008 8:24 AM
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Reply to: Message 146 by V-Bird 12-02-2008 10:22 AM
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Re: DA.
v-bird writes: NS is infinite, it is not '0' but in reality NS is -0.0>inf<1 I am not a mathematician and only got up to College Calculus but from my understanding there is no such creature as -0 as 0 is neither positive nor negative. Thus -0=0. Therefore -0.0=0 right? As far as 0.0000000 this is again is 0. Do you mean 0.00000001 (not -0.0>inf<1, whatever that means???)? If so then this technically would be zero as 0.00000001 could never be reached. Someone let know if I am wrong in my assumptions. Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given. For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.Dr. Carl Sagan
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PaulK
Member Posts: 17827 Joined: 01-10-2003 Member Rating: 2.3
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Re: DA.
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Do you mean 0.00000001 (not -0.0>inf<1, whatever that means???)? If so then this technically would be zero as 0.00000001 could never be reached. Someone let know if I am wrong in my assumptions.
Only that -0.00000001 isn't merely technically zero. It's exactly zero. Sticking the 1 on the end of the infinite string of zeroes makes no difference whatsoever.
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DevilsAdvocate
Member (Idle past 3129 days) Posts: 1548 Joined: 06-05-2008
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Message 156 of 159 (490409)
12-04-2008 9:40 AM
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Reply to: Message 155 by PaulK 12-04-2008 8:38 AM
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Re: DA.
PaulK writes: Only that -0.00000001 isn't merely technically zero. It's exactly zero. Sticking the 1 on the end of the infinite string of zeroes makes no difference whatsoever. Thanks Paul, I see the logic in this. It is the same thing as saying that + 1 = . For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.Dr. Carl Sagan
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AdminNosy
Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: 11-11-2003
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Devil --
DA, I've asked VBird not to post to this thread again. It is my assessment that we don't need continued utter gibberish in the thread any more. If you disagree please take that that to suggestions and questions.
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DevilsAdvocate
Member (Idle past 3129 days) Posts: 1548 Joined: 06-05-2008
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Re: Devil --
Rgr Wilco, Will stop all further gibberish.
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PaulK
Member Posts: 17827 Joined: 01-10-2003 Member Rating: 2.3
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Re: DA.
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I see the logic in this. It is the same thing as saying that + 1 = .
Pretty much. -0.00000001/10 is the same as -0.00000001 for that very reason. It's also exactly the same as 0.999 = 1
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