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Can Nothing Exist?

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Syamsu 
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06-14-2003 3:01 AM 		Reply to: Message 1 by stevo3890
06-12-2003 5:18 PM

That might have been a question to the people who invented the zero in mathematics. I guess we should just presume nothing exists, if we want to use the zero.
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I don't think it's inconsistent for nothing to exist, and something to exist also. The relationship between nothing and something is a chance. What's the chance of it raining today? Will rain come into existence, or will it remain nothing? So you see, if there wasn't nothing, then everything what happens would be predetermined by what is, and there would be no chance or choice in it.
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Mohammad Nor Syamsu
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06-21-2003 8:36 AM 		Reply to: Message 36 by nator
06-16-2003 3:49 PM

That might be true, if it wasn't a chance that the watervapor turned to rain, but a certainty. You should distinguish between cause and effect, and chance and outcome, they are not the same.
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06-21-2003 8:51 AM 		Reply to: Message 29 by crashfrog
06-14-2003 2:03 PM

Or zero is nothing, and apples are just anything out of an infinite number of possible things.
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Nando
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