Is ID Scientific? (was "Abusive Assumptions")

I wish I had seen this earlier, as it is pretty clear you were talking about me personally. I didn't say "nutcase", but I did use the terms "bigot" and "moron" while discussing something with you. By the way there are at least two threads where you never answered my replies.Just to clue you in, I did not use "bigot" and "moron" as a reference to all creos and ID theorists. My commentary was quite specific. It was directed at those so incapable of handling contrary opinion, as well as statements of fact, that they actually try to stop a movie from being played (as if they are forced to go).My only slam of ID, is that I believe many of the leaders are merely propagandists, and that those following ID have either been duped by the propaganda, or have not sufficiently read the supporting material. People are asking for the very best tour... the evidence. You have yet to get to it, even in some very basic way and instead continue to hand out the propaganda about ID, which comes from guess where... the leaders of the iD movement.I have read just about everything printed by the ID movement up till 2001. That includes essays. I have continued to read from time to time but not as comprehensively.I was quite interested to see what they had to say. Dembski was riddled with what another poster called "fatal flaws", Behe did not make his case and indeed admitted that much more work had to be done to make the case (and even then evolution may be true, just abiogenesis being the problem), the rest pretty much followed Johnson's lead of trying to poke holes in a competing theory, rather than build their own. Damn I wish I had read that last sentence before writing my responses. Yet another preacher/propagandist for ID theory.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

One might wonder if interns at all these ID "institutes" and "centers" recently popping up, are expected to spend a certain amount of time looking for converts and generally "postering" the ID message all over the place.Kind of using the telemarketing approach and applying it to scientific discussions.I am almost tempted to find a forum area at one of the sites he advertised and act like him, breezing in and telling how they won't listen to me and how could SO MANY MORE SCIENTISTS be mistaken in believing in evo (that will be my only evidence) and then leave.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)