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Author Topic:   Why Evolution is science
alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 45 of 200 (365898)
11-25-2006 12:27 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by Confidence
11-25-2006 12:08 AM


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confidence writes:
Great! lead me to some examples? Just to make sure you are talking about evolution, not natural selection?
Before you start moving the goal post, maybe you should first know what evolution is. Natural selection is part of evolution, here:Evolution:From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
quote:
The basic mechanisms that produce evolutionary change are natural selection (which includes ecological, sexual, and kin selection). and genetic drift; these two mechanisms act on the genetic variation created by mutation, genetic recombination, and gene flow.
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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 86 of 200 (367276)
12-01-2006 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Confidence
12-01-2006 1:47 PM


Re: problems with redefinitions and loose undefined terms
confidence writes:
. In the end, flying snakes were the parent snakes of all snakes, and other snakes lost the information or some switching happened.
Do you have any proof of this?

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 93 of 200 (367304)
12-01-2006 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Confidence
12-01-2006 2:33 PM


Re: problems with redefinitions and loose undefined terms
confidence writes:
alacrity fitzhugh writes:
confidence writes:
In the end, flying snakes were the parent snakes of all snakes, and other snakes lost the information or some switching happened.
Do you have any proof of this?
The prediction is that there was an original kind snake. The proof is not there
I asked if you had proof that flying snakes were the parents of all snakes and lost information, please answer that question
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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 99 of 200 (367480)
12-02-2006 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by platypus
12-02-2006 6:54 AM


Re: problems with redefinitions and loose undefined terms
Hello platypus:
platypus writes:
I don't think its fair to ask Confidence for proof that flying snakes were the first kind- he is making the best explanation he can given the information he has been told. This is similar to evolutionary stories that we come up with to show how it is possible for a certain feature to evolve, though it is not known exactly how it evolved.
I think it is fair to hold him to the standards you and razd are showing. If confidence wants to state that all snakes came from one parent snake ( flying snakes )and a loss of information was involved, then he should be able to show the research that either tentatively show this or evidence that shows how this occurred.
platypus writes:
On a more serious note, other snakes have evolved features flying snakes do not have, such as venomous fangs, hingable jaws, and (oddly enough) accessory forelimbs. Snake Evolution - Photos of Vestigial Hind Limbs on Snakes These all seem to be increases in information- are they caused by switches? ,Are there two original snake kinds? This theory is getting awfully confusing to define, much less defend, perhaps a simpler one describes the situation better.
At lest three kinds. Rattlesnakes, garter snakes and boas are ovoviviparous, flying snakes are oviparous
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