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PecosGeorge
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Message 31 of 117 (119750)
06-28-2004 11:25 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Loudmouth
06-28-2004 6:33 PM


Of course
you would think I am negotiating my standards on the readers. That is not so. You do as you wish. And when the topic changes to clinical, you can buy sex tapes specifically made for clinical purposes, that may be considered tastefully done. And yes, if someone where to film my lover and me in intimate behavior, that would be porn, even if the filming were done secretly. If you eat M&M's or icecream all the time, because you so love this stuff, how soon are you sick of them, become nauseated at the sight of them, and avoid them altogether? That's just the way it goes, and so with sex, you become jaded, unless you are sick. Porn, as it is sent to me daily whether I want it or not, has no redeeming values.

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Silent H
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Message 32 of 117 (119867)
06-29-2004 6:48 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by PecosGeorge
06-28-2004 11:25 PM


Why won't you reply to my Pecos, or the subject of this thread?
Is it because it would stop your ability to monologue, and force you to think for a second? I'm getting real sorry I expected a brain to sit somewhere behind a Xian demagogues keyboard.
Porn, as it is sent to me daily whether I want it or not, has no redeeming values.
I hate spam too... all spam. Not all porn sites, or porn companies use spam.

holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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RAZD
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Message 33 of 117 (119899)
06-29-2004 8:51 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Loudmouth
06-28-2004 4:23 PM


female porn
Loudmouth writes:
But really, the romance novel business is fuelled predominantly by female consumers.
Romance novels are female porn. Their portrayal of males is entirely one-sided and exploitive.

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
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arachnophilia
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Message 34 of 117 (119909)
06-29-2004 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by RAZD
06-29-2004 8:51 AM


Re: female porn
lol. very true.
as for the feminist argument... they're not against porn. they think women should be free to do whatever they want with their bodies. even exploit them.
and for the record, there is stuff in porn that encourages violence against women, and it's starting to become more mainstream. i'm not talking standard hardcore, either.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 35 of 117 (119914)
06-29-2004 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Silent H
06-29-2004 6:48 AM


Agree
or disagree, people usually do so on their terms. You want to police what is being thrown in, I'll make it easy for you.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 36 of 117 (119917)
06-29-2004 9:40 AM
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06-29-2004 8:51 AM


so why
do you think this business is thriving? Could be the lackluster imagination brought to their beds, by lackluster men just wanting to get it off. And realizing that better or more may be had, they flee to where it may be found. In someone else's imagination, if only to read and dream.
Exploiting males - sounds good to me.

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RAZD
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Message 37 of 117 (119920)
06-29-2004 9:48 AM
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06-29-2004 9:19 AM


Re: female porn
anything that objectifies people encourages violence for it takes away reasons to prevent it.

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD
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Message 38 of 117 (119924)
06-29-2004 9:54 AM
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06-29-2004 9:40 AM


Re: so why
one appeals to the evolved instincts of men the other to the evovled instincts of women ...

we are limited in our ability to understand
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RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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Percy
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Message 39 of 117 (119928)
06-29-2004 10:06 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by PecosGeorge
06-28-2004 11:25 PM


Re: Of course
PecosGeorge writes:
And when the topic changes to clinical, you can buy sex tapes specifically made for clinical purposes, that may be considered tastefully done.
Who defines "tastefully"?
--Percy

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arachnophilia
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Message 40 of 117 (119931)
06-29-2004 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by RAZD
06-29-2004 9:48 AM


Re: female porn
anything that objectifies people encourages violence for it takes away reasons to prevent it.
this is true to some extent, but that wasn't what i was refering to. i'm talking about going beyond depicting women being used as sex-objects.
i'm talking the more violent or degrading forms of porn. i would describe what i mean, but i think this is a fairly family-friendly board, so...

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nator
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Message 41 of 117 (119938)
06-29-2004 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by mark24
06-28-2004 4:39 PM


Re: porn
quote:
You can chop it off if you want, mate, more totty for the rest of us (the Lord protect me from the almighty Schraf for that comment).
LOL!!

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nator
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Message 42 of 117 (119941)
06-29-2004 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by RAZD
06-29-2004 8:51 AM


Re: female porn
quote:
Romance novels are female porn. Their portrayal of males is entirely one-sided and exploitive.
....and are those books ever BORING.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 43 of 117 (119946)
06-29-2004 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by Percy
06-29-2004 10:06 AM


tastefully
is defined by the lack of offense it brings along to a majority deciding what is offensive. That would keep anarchy down to a manageable level.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 44 of 117 (119947)
06-29-2004 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by RAZD
06-29-2004 9:54 AM


I'm not so
eager to apply the term instinct to humans. One could even accept porn as acceptable if instinct were dominant.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 45 of 117 (119950)
06-29-2004 11:00 AM
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06-29-2004 10:43 AM


Try
Lady Chatterley's Lover, for a start. (LOL)

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