for any of the anti-porn crowd

George? Post 64?

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"Egos drone and pose alone, Like black balloons, all banged and blown
On a backwards river the infidels shiver in the stench of belief.
And tell my mama I'm a hundred years late; I'm over the rails and out of the race
The crippled psalms of an age that won't thaw are ringing in my ears"
-Beck

that's funny.A royal pain in the bhudda, those flushes can be, and I'm damn straight about it.

one?Will look soon, ok? Trying to sneak some work in here.

That's cool. Just wanted to make sure it was noticed in the hubbub.

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"Egos drone and pose alone, Like black balloons, all banged and blown
On a backwards river the infidels shiver in the stench of belief.
And tell my mama I'm a hundred years late; I'm over the rails and out of the race
The crippled psalms of an age that won't thaw are ringing in my ears"
-Beck

Taboo American Style. Talk about exploring power issues.

experience. lots of experience. i'll leave it at that. yes, i know this.the point was that actual violence is becoming more mainstream, and it's usually man on woman. where the mainstream femdom is still uncommon, and usually sexual.i didn't say that there exists no violence against men in porn.

I have a love hate relationship with that series. Some of it is hot, especially some of the power trips the main character gets in to (which is also interesting given that she isn't supposed to be the one with power). But there is also a lot of stuff which I find sex negative, and it increases through the series.My favorite line from that series was when the main character objected to being called a lesbian and snapped back "I'm perverse."

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

I am unsure what experience you have, but I'm quite skeptical regarding the accuracy of your experiences because they do not match mine and I know I have spent quite a bit of time studying the market.I did understand what you were saying, though I must admit I did not realize you had an added emphasis on mainstream vids as compared to the entirety of the porn market.But that changes little. I am unaware of the actual violence which is becoming more mainstream. Maybe it is based on what you define as violence (and if I used the same def then I'd end up agreeing with you).I think there is a definite increase in the popularity of humiliation centered porn (which personally I can't stand). There may also be some added force situations in mainstream, though many of these are played more for laughs than real attempts at depicting force.If you define Max Hardcore style force situations as "violence" (and he does not play it as funny) then I guess I'd agree. I just don't define that as violence.To me violence really has to involve physical infliction of harm (even if simulated) beyond spanking and slapping or using sex whips.And on the femdom issue, I still disagree. There is definitely an INCREASE in female domination that is just as sexual as vids like Max makes. So kind of if your definition of violence is looser than mine, it still undercuts the claim femdom tapes are more sexual.But I'll tell you what. Maybe MY experience is skewed. If you have stats or something, or a place I can look that would suggest this (I'm pretty sure it ain't the AVN catalog as I've seen that) I am open to checking it out.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

It's campy, it's fake, it's ... WWF ... heh.

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we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
{{{Buddha walks off laughing with joy}}}

Yeah but the main actress was pretty hot. Raven?

Actually I was keeping the fact that violence against men, by men is the most mainstream thing there is on this planet as my ace up the sleeve.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

Wait... don't get me wrong here. That love-hate relationship ended up with me getting the whole series on tape. I had to chuck them when moving, but will get them again at some point (except the last one).Raven was hot and her dementia, her perversion, just... nevermind.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

I really liked that Curse of the Catwoman with Selena Steele too. Raven reprised her role as controling bitch sibling in that one too.

Have not seen that one... on the list now.On the subject of Catwomen I saw a preview for Catwoman last night. Halle Berry looked fucking hot. Has it come out in the states yet, has anyone heard if it's good?I can only hope that it is R and she gets her body out there like in Monster's Ball. Please please please.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

Not out yet. But you know she was topless in Swordfish, right? Also wore some great lingerie.Yeah check out Catwoman. If you like Selena Steele, it's probably her best flick. It's got Rocco, Raven, some other usual guys and gals ... There's a hot threeway with Selena, Rocco, and some woman whose name escapes me at the moment. This message has been edited by custard, 07-01-2004 09:43 AM