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DominionSeraph
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Message 20 of 191 (367379)
12-01-2006 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Hyroglyphx
11-30-2006 11:10 PM


nemesis_juggernaut writes:
So then, what shall we say equates to true life? What makes us who we are? Answer: The soul.
So my cats have souls, as I am perfectly capable of imagining them in different bodies and having them still be themselves.
(simply changing the inputs is easier to deal with than removing the inputs, and it has the same effect.)
nemesis_juggernaut writes:
Consider the soul, then, to be the very [b]”essence’[/i] of being. It IS the existence. Everything else is an illusory.
Explain unconsciousness.
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DominionSeraph
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Message 46 of 191 (367617)
12-04-2006 1:53 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by Hyroglyphx
12-03-2006 6:11 PM


nemesis_juggernaut writes:
What makes you unique from every one else?
His differences make him different.
nemesis_juggernaut writes:
The other readers seemed to understand it.
Nobody else responded to it, so from what did you take, "understanding"?
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Message 63 of 191 (368660)
12-09-2006 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by 2ice_baked_taters
12-08-2006 4:03 AM


2ice_baked_taters writes:
Every time you learn an improtant life lesson you fundamentally change.
What about when you forget? Are Alzheimers patients fundamentally changed?

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DominionSeraph
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Message 73 of 191 (369005)
12-11-2006 11:57 AM
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12-09-2006 9:48 PM


2ice_baked_taters writes:
How about when someone loses a limb
Beside the point.
Now address the point.

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DominionSeraph
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Message 81 of 191 (369393)
12-12-2006 8:02 PM
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12-11-2006 12:31 PM


2ice_baked_taters writes:
It is you who have made the some sort of distinction between losing a limb and the capacity to recall a memory.
Now you're mixing verbs and nouns. Do you not know how to construct an analogy?
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DominionSeraph
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Message 87 of 191 (369557)
12-13-2006 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by 2ice_baked_taters
12-12-2006 9:37 PM


2ice_baked_taters writes:
I recognise my description of the loss of 2 capacities by physical dammage.
You equated 'losing' with 'capacity'. "Losing is like capacity" is nonsensical.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
Why, Yes I do.
Then use that knowledge.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
To my understanding learning is something we do with intent.
Only once you learn what learning is can you intend to learn. So there is a base that is done without volition.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
We do not intend to unlearn.
You can't unlearn. What you can do is forget what you've learned.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
Alzhiemers patients understand the loss of ability they are enduring.
Until they forget.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
Explain to me the way in which you see the two to be anologous because to me they are not even close.
How is storing data like storing no data? They're both dealing with storage.
You basically said that storing processed data can fundamentally change a person. I want to know what happens when you clean it out.
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DominionSeraph
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Message 102 of 191 (370058)
12-15-2006 9:43 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by 2ice_baked_taters
12-13-2006 5:01 PM


2ice_baked_taters writes:
How are you defining learning and forgetting?
Learning includes processing. Don't need to process anything to forget.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
If you are a pilot with the capacity to pilot planes and you go blind you will have lost your capacity to fly.
A blind person can fly just fine -- it's the ground-air interface that's problematic.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
There is nothing nonsensical about it. Capacity and ability are interchangable.
Losing and capacity are not, and that's what you equated.
You obviously don't even know how to read an analogy.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
To learn something is to understand it to some capacity.
That's why I said 'processed'.
2ice_baked_taters writes:
So if one needs to learn what learning is before one can intend to do so how can one learn initially?
Without intent.

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