Is America a Christian nation?

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Originally posted by nos482:
Originally posted by Mammuthus:

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Hi Joe,
High beer (and all other alcoholic beverages)prices is a general problem in scandanavian countries. I found the prices outrageous in Denmark and Sweden as well. I was in Helsinki a few months ago and it was also really expensive....and lousy.

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German beer is not so expensive, comes in about 4,000 different varieties and is really good. There is one festival during lent where the monks brew Starkbier (Nockerberg festival) that tastes really good and has about 10% alcohol. I have never seen so many trashed people. I assume the monks were so depressed being monks that they found away to lose consciousness completely in an enjoyable and tasty way ....

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Cheers,
Mammuthus

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Canadian beer is expensive and good. American beer is cheaper and it is like making love in a canoe....

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Not to go overboard on the extra quotes but,I used to homebrew and actually used the brewing of beer as an easy way to explain fermentation as part of a training guide for microbiology in my company. Monks used to brew and drink beer to supplement their diets when they were fasting. Many of the heavier beers contained enough nutrition (and alchohol) to take the edge off of the fast as well as to supplement their diets.Now, as to American beers, there are many very good american beers now that rival pretty much anything in the world. They are much more expensive but well worth it IMO.------------------
"Chance favors the prepared mind." L. Pasteur
Taz

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Originally posted by nos482:

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Originally posted by Mammuthus:
Is it?

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No, it isn't. It is a country where the dominate religious belief system is Christianity, but it is not a theocracy.

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Now, back to topic. I have to agree here, I bet that is a big suprise . Most of the founding fathers were either christians or deists. Franklin was an avowed diest, especially in his private writings. He questioned the divinity of Jesus and many tenets of the christian faith. He did this in his private writings and counsled others to keep them private due to the problems that it would cause with the more religious of his fellow colonists. If anyone doubts this please look at many of the biographies on Franklin which contain comments from both his public and private writings.------------------
"Chance favors the prepared mind." L. Pasteur
Taz

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Originally posted by John:
The same concerning John Adams, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, and Thomas Paine. The later, though not a founder, certainly influenced the political structure of the country.

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Actually I think that J. Adams was probably the most observant of the group that you mentioned. In many ways he was a bit of a puritan at heart, from what I have read. That said, I also think that in many ways he was one of the most admirable but least appreciated and understood (at least commanly) of the founding fathers.------------------
"Chance favors the prepared mind." L. Pasteur
Taz

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Originally posted by nos482:
Maybe you should invite Wordswordman into this discussion. He is a TRUE believer and will jump through hops (Actually he'll bring in the entire circus) to make everything you say fit his religious beliefs. And he is in total denial of anything you present to him in the contray as well.

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I second that one, Wordswordman would bring an interesting perspective to this debate. I can not believe that he actually admitted that Adams and Eves children would have had to commit incest to populate the earth, and then claimed that it would not have been a sin then .------------------
"Chance favors the prepared mind." L. Pasteur
Taz